Cisco NA F22 non-VTEC SOHC Project - Full Street White

[KeeleDesign]

Man, I'm itchin for this winter weather to break and get back on the ball with this project. :

you and me both...

[HondaFan81]

It's been awhile ordering parts, but I'm lining up what is necessary for degreeing the camshaft this spring and getting back on the dyno.

Mugen Thermoswitch - Lower cooling fan temp. operation, help bring down engine coolant temps.

Omnipower Motor Oil & Tranny Magnetic Plugs - Isolate ferrous wear particles as this powertrain wears in.

Web Camshafts Degree Wheel & 14mm Positive Stop - Tools needed to degree camshaft. I already have access to the other necessary tools.

[HondaFan81]

I really want to see this project done, then see the hopefully insane number it'll lay down. This build is about the only thing that is going to keep me N/A.

I really appreciate the comments and motivation. I have no doubt based on the initial dyno tune numbers at the 7000 RPM pull, that this project will be over 200WHP (Mustang Dyno) when complete. The question is how much more. It would be nice to be in the mid-200s.

[dbsharp]

you can do it. Just keep at it.

[HondaFan81]

Weather was good, roads dry. Installed new copper plugs, as previous were fouled out from running rich. Changed oil again, this time added Torco ZEP additive with conventional Valvoline 5W-30. Got the motor started, ran it another 30 more miles, has about 400 miles on the motor now. It is finally home in a garage. Right before some more snow coming tomorrow. Fuel pressure fine, oil temp max 210 F, oil psi max 100-105 psi (normal for this motor). Coolant temp was at same place on dyno 195 F, runs hotter than a stock motor.

I'll install the Mugen cooling fan thermoswitch first, see how that helps. If that's not sufficient, then I'll go one step down on thermostat to 170 F. I believe I have 180 F now.

[93F22A6]

Sounds good, have you degreed the cam yet? I couldn't remember if you have yet. Is there any reason your trying to get the temp down from 195? I know stock runing temp is lower but then again thats a stock motor.

[dbsharp]

are you using hondata? you can probably change when the fans come on. that would probably help a bit.

[HondaFan81]

It was implied, but of course I am waiting until I am fully tuned before making changes to the coolant system. In fact, I only drove the car recently to get out of the weather. I am eagerly awaiting spring before continuing this project, in which I will degree the camshaft. I have all the tools I need to do this now.

I did note when driving the car this time, that when cruising down highway at about 70-75 mph (3000-3500 RPMs), then the coolant temps were at about the 195 F mark. However, when I downshifted and raised the RPMS to like 4000-4500 RPMs, I noticed the ECT start going down. So temps may change after further tuning, we'll see.

After the full tune, I'll make changes accordingly to ECTs.

Drilling holes in the thermostat is not my style. I'd rather get one designed for a set temp, so that I can install a new one in future and not have to modify it again. I like simplicity. Not using non-resistor type plugs either.

[2point6]

It was implied, but of course I am waiting until I am fully tuned before making changes to the coolant system. In fact, I only drove the car recently to get out of the weather. I am eagerly awaiting spring before continuing this project, in which I will degree the camshaft. I have all the tools I need to do this now.

I did note when driving the car this time, that when cruising down highway at about 70-75 mph (3000-3500 RPMs), then the coolant temps were at about the 195 F mark. However, when I downshifted and raised the RPMS to like 4000-4500 RPMs, I noticed the ECT start going down. So temps may change after further tuning, we'll see.

After the full tune, I'll make changes accordingly to ECTs.

Drilling holes in the thermostat is not my style. I'd rather get one designed for a set temp, so that I can install a new one in future and not have to modify it again. I like simplicity. Not using non-resistor type plugs either.

Cisco, What's up my friend? I hope you are doing well. I am going to talk trash to you a little bit here, so understand that this is only intended to light a fire under your butt.

YOU ARE WAY OVER COMPLICATING THIS BUILD.

Lets reach down and grab that "manhood" god gave you and quit worring about superficial things and get to the meat of this build. You have one hell of a project... I understand your caution, but sometimes you just have to "go for it".

I like you very much and enjoy talking to you on the phone, so please don't feel that I am hating on you in any way. I am trying to get you to go back and re-read this thread and look at all of the little hang-ups you have had. In my opinion, you seem to be delaying this for all sorts of little things.

Come on bud. YOU CAN DO THIS. You are so close.

[fatboy1185]

In my opinion, you seem to be delaying this for all sorts of little things.

It's the little things that kill

[jdm92_accorn]

his main problem is tuning, quit wasting your time and take it to a real tuner and let them degree that cam, set the timing, start from the bottom and work his or her way up. if they cant make it idle without stalling or surging and stop fouling out plugs then you need to take it to someone else. PM me we need to talk about our projects.

[2point6]

It's the little things that kill

I don't disagree at all, but being an engine builder myself, watching this thread, and talking to Cisco on the phone, I have confidence in him. I do feel that his hang ups come from a lack of confidence in himself. This guy has talent. He just needs a friendly kick in the butt, IMO. He has had Bisi's instruction as well as my own input.

I think the ultra-cautious aproach is good, but really slowing you down. Get this done man... OR I will have my own f22 project done first.

Cisco, I consider you my friend and I am sure there is more to this than what I am reading. I fully believe that you will finish this and get the results you are after. I know you can do it!

[2point6]

No he can't. He will fail and cry like a momma's boy.


I know why he's stalling. He's whipped.

LOL.... those damn women. Don't you youngin's know that once you eat the wedding cake, life ends?

[F22HB]

I agree that he may be slightly whipped, but this is is style. If precision and correctness are his goals, he needs to stick with it. Thats what makes his builds so sweet. He goes the extra mile to the right thing.

[d112crzy]

He goes the extra MILLION miles to the right thing.

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