h22 build up

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by BustedLX
Do you mean to tell me that the eBay IAT resistor mod is not ghetto because on some occasions it does make power? poopyhead...

trying to get me in the details eh? I would posit that IT IS ghetto...only because it is simply fooling the ECU into thinking it's colder out than it is...there is no real modification of anything other than a sensor input....but I really don't want to get into a discussion over IAT resistors... I refuse to put that much thought into it...cuz it's so ghetto...


but now that you mention it....that's another overpriced little mod that could be done tons cheaper by the DIYer...


sooper dooper poopyhead....beat that!!!

[BustedLX]

Originally posted by NoScreenName
sooper dooper poopyhead....beat that!!!

<Cartmen Voice> All I'm saying is you're a little wuss that's all.

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by fizzbob7
if you mill the head, swap to the manual tensioner.........the auto tensioner is REALLY likely to fail on you (and ruin an engine) when you keep it and then mill the head..

and the H22 auto tensioner is crap anyways.... how many knowledgeable people swith to the H23 manual tensioner without any milling...just becuase they never want their valves to meet their pistons...

or so I 've heard...

gawd...here I am in an H22 thread....bleh....

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by BustedLX
<Cartmen Voice> All I'm saying is you're a little wuss that's all.

well in that case....

screw you guys....I'm going home...

[BustedLX]

Originally posted by NoScreenName
well in that case....

screw you guys....I'm going home...

Sure does take you a long time to leave... damn those F22's are slow

[93accordEX]

I personally don't consider either ghetto, but I think why milling the head could possibly be viewed as such is because the goal is to get higher compression. and the supposed better way would be to get the block sleeved and get forged pistons. and if $ was no problem and I wanted 11.5:1 compression I would sleeve and get pistons, but I am actually considering doing the same thing, putting in type-s pistons and possibly milling the head since I don't have the $ for the alternative. now tuning is tuning now matter how you do it. If you can control fuel and timing maps thats cool with me. anyways as to the original question Im kinda liking crower cams, or custom reground. and yes I think you can definetly pull 200 out of that with tuning. smsp = 1200 but its gonna be like on back order forever. I think my name might actually be on the list for the next buy though. we'll see how I feel if that next buy ever comes around. I know it makes power, but would still like to see it dyno'd compared to stock.

[93accordEX]

damn this thread got like 10 more replies while I was typing that..

[BustedLX]

lol but seriously now... I agree with 93AccordEX. Crower's cams are looking mighty nice. For an NA setup I like 63422A, they look pretty sweet. If I could get them for a good price I'd buy them even knowing that they wouldn't work for my boost setup. They're proven power.

[HondaFan81]

IMO if you do research & bust ur ass to get the shit working right, it ain't ghetto. Ghetto is taking a Civic ECU and wiring it in by simply twisting wires by hand & starting up ur built up engine expecting it to work.

now that's ghetto & just plain stupid

Originally posted by BustedLX
lol... Well why would you consider it ghetto? It's just a form of engine management.

Would you call a Hondata setup ghetto? They use the same platform... the P28. I've just eliminated the need for the Hondata and tuned the ECU myself. The fuel and igntion maps are changed to run the H22A. The ECU is just a machine running processes. It doesn't care what engine it's manageing it just cares about the input it's getting and the output it's sending to remain within it's preset perameters, The perameters I set in rom.

So it's really not ghetto, you've just choosen a different computer to run your engine rather then the one that came with it. So I've upgraded from a P1 to a PIII, how's that ghetto, lol.

Now why is milling the head on a Honda considered ghetto? Simple... Honda's like ours get their ignition timing off a cam located on the head. If you mill the head you make the distance from the block to the head shorter, meaning the timing belt will no longer fall in the exact number of teeth it should so you change your base timing. The maximum amount a head like ours can be milled is .005 any more then that and you've now altered base timing.

Now that's not ghetto?

[kentucky accord]

heres my 2 compression points.............

i run a milled head but am first to admit its more "ghetto" than a build w/ high compression pistons.

also, a chipped pXX is only ghetto when up against a full stand alone, IMO, ie., Autronic, AEM, Haltech, TEC3, etc.


so, on a side note, i see milled head, 14:1 pistons, and dual 48mm Weber DCOE carbs in my future......ECU's? HAAH! WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN" ECU's!!!!!

[hybrid90accord]

Re: h22 build up

[QUOTE]Originally posted by h22sparkle


ALLMOTOR BUILD-UP
Skunk2 stage-2 cams
Skunk2 camgears
Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers
Type-S pistons
2Layer headgasket
SMSP 4-2-1 header with skidplate
Portmatch the intake manifold
0.035 milling of the head
APEXI VAFC
QUOTE]

For the price of the type S pistons you would be better off with some high compression JE's, Also have you considered running a Euro R intake manifold?

[BustedLX]

Re: Re: h22 build up

Originally posted by hybrid90accord


For the price of the type S pistons you would be better off with some high compression JE's, Also have you considered running a Euro R intake manifold?

But you forget that the high compression JE's are non-FRM compatible so you will have to resleeve the block in order to use them so after you add all that up it's wayyyyy more expensive then the OEM Honda Forged 11.0:1 pistons.