h22 skunk2 im with h23 adapter?

[91H22ACB7]

I'm closer to him than most people on this board. I realize there may be people who are closer.

I resent that remark about it not being too hard to make a basemap however, if that were the case you'd be making your own wouldn't you? I admit John is very damn good at what he does, and over time he probably has pretty "Safe" calibrations. But still, a basemap is a basemap, get it on the dyno, that's what it's for. You're really holding back the performance of your car with a basemap, as I'm sure he's trying to make sure it doesn't blow up, by designing something overly aggressive.

I was just teasing about the distance.

I totally agree with you.

As far as doing it myself, i would if i had the tools.

As far as the remark about a basemap goes, im referring to taking a stock p13 map and tweaking it slightly, not a basemap from scratch. I know its not purely advisable to only run a basemap, however what i have from john is leaps and bounds better then the p13 and the tune that was on the p28 to begin with. Old tune would ping all the time and the p13 was so rich it was washing down the cylinder walls.

[oneoffaccord]

idk, a stock h22 with skunk2 mani was really close. if clearance is a issue then a Euro R manifold would be better.

[jdmboi type s]

Wow sounds like alot of work just to get the sk2 manifold on there... i didnt think the sk2 manifold would have any Clearance issues....... oh well too late to back down now ..i just order the h23 adapter plate .... and a friend on mycb7.com is going to send me the sk2 manifold .... the euro r manifold would be nice .. but a bit too pricey for me

[TracieS]

well please update the thread and let us know what you find out and runn into.

[Joey GT-R]

Wow sounds like alot of work just to get the sk2 manifold on there... i didnt think the sk2 manifold would have any Clearance issues....... oh well too late to back down now ..i just order the h23 adapter plate .... and a friend on mycb7.com is going to send me the sk2 manifold .... the euro r manifold would be nice .. but a bit too pricey for me

You'll be fine, you're not the first, and you won't be the last(knock on wood). Take a pic when you're done. Just do it!

[gloryaccordy]

Is the motor its going on stock?

I think money could be better spent elsewhere. Even on fully built H22s IMs are only good for like 5-6HP over stock, tuned. And it would be a lot of work and $$$ to get it running 100%. I think money would be better spent on a cam

[jdmboi type s]

Thanks for the support ppl .... will post an update ...when parts get in

[Joey GT-R]

Is the motor its going on stock?

I think money could be better spent elsewhere. Even on fully built H22s IMs are only good for like 5-6HP over stock, tuned. And it would be a lot of work and $$$ to get it running 100%. I think money would be better spent on a cam

Not sure on that one, but ok.....

A cam is easily $300 shipped from Bisi, not to mention he'd probably have to get it tuned asap, so roughly a $600-$800 expense.

[gloryaccordy]

Not sure on that one, but ok.....

A cam is easily $300 shipped from Bisi, not to mention he'd probably have to get it tuned asap, so roughly a $600-$800 expense.

An S2 manifold + adapter would cost more than a cam when all is said and done. And even mild cams that don't need better valvsprings are proven to make power. This S2IM is essentially a gamble.

Not to mention, 10whp is good gains for the S2IM on a fully built high compression motor...



I would bet money you would see little to nothing in gains on a stock F22A over an H23 IM. S2IM is designed for a completely different motor, it barely registers gains on stock H22s. IMO the money would be better spent elsewhere, that IM could buy a lot of good parts for the F22.

[Joey GT-R]

You initially said 5-6whp, and then the dyno you showed us is netting a 10whp 5tq gain. At the price of roughly 500 altogether, I'd say that would be worth it. Granted that's on an H22 but as far as I know personally only 1 person on these forums has dynoed an F22 on here with that manifold, and he was a genius. I don't expect him to produce those kinds of numbers, but a ballpark figure I believe is perfectly attainable.

[gloryaccordy]

You initially said 5-6whp, and then the dyno you showed us is netting a 10whp 5tq gain. At the price of roughly 500 altogether, I'd say that would be worth it. Granted that's on an H22 but as far as I know personally only 1 person on these forums has dynoed an F22 on here with that manifold, and he was a genius. I don't expect him to produce those kinds of numbers, but a ballpark figure I believe is perfectly attainable.

$500 for 5whp? And they don't even sell the adapters anymore.

Skunk2 H22 mani + Bisi Stage 2 cam + header???? :scared:

http://lzgusa.com/lzusa/evo/evoauto/...roducts_id=105

Link is dead, so it would have to be a one-off or used, so $500 is prob optimistic considering the manifold itself is like $350 new. Plus it has a bigger TB opening so to make the most of it dude would have to get port work. And I'm not even sure there would be clearance- ESPECIALLY with the adapter.

Just not the best way to spend $$$. The H23 IM will make 90% of the gains for 25% of the price. Seems like a no brainer.

If anything a better idea would be a K series IM... those make way more power on stock H22s.... and are cheaper...

[Joey GT-R]

I didn't do port work on my IM and TB, and I still feel it would be worth it. But that's up to him. With the port work though however, there's no denying the S2 IM would murder the H23 IM. It will fit, the adapter is probably no more than half to a whole inch thick. I have easily a good 2-2.5 inches of clearance. I think worst case scenario is he has .25 inch left. Hell even if it slightly touched the firewall, I wouldn't care.

[Jarrett]

If it slightly touched the firewall the the impact from the engine torquing would cause the flange to crack.

[Joey GT-R]

Here's some shots of an F22A in a EG Civic with the Euro R. Keep in mind the Civic is a smaller engine bay and still fits it in there quite nicely. The H23A might be tight but in the larger CB7 chassis you can pretty much rest assured it would be fine.








I know they're not exactly what you planned...but I hope it helps.