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Inexpensive cam options... OBX vs. Rocket Motorsports

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    Inexpensive cam options... OBX vs. Rocket Motorsports

    Ok ok... I know I'm going to hear LOTS of "OBX is crap" and "You get what you pay for"... If that's all you have to offer, please move on. Don't waste your time or our bandwidth, please!

    I'm looking to add some cams to my motor. Now, I don't want to upgrade the valvetrain, so I'll be retaining the stock rev limit, valve springs, and retainers.

    I plan on getting Stage 1 cams only, so that shouldn't be a problem (12-15hp with the Stage 1, and 15-18 with stage 2... I'll stick to the ones that don't require a valvetrain upgrade!)


    Now, the Rocket Motorsports cams are regrinds, but I've heard good things about them.

    OBX cams are "Precision machined from forged billet 4130 chrome moly steel rod" (taken from http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/cs10461.html ) which sounds much better!


    I don't want to shell out $1500 for expensive cams and a full valvetrain upgrade (plus installation)... I don't want to shell out $650-$850 for Stage 1 cams either. Both the Rocket Motorsports cams and the OBX cams are about $350.


    My main concern is that I don't want any damage because of these cams! I know there have been some manufacturers that have had issues with certain components wearing out VERY quickly (comp cams and the rocker arms, I think it was perhaps?) Can anyone offer some more insight into this? Any REAL reasons why I might not want to get either of these cams? Or any reasons why I would want one over the other?






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    #2
    Originally posted by deevergote
    My main concern is that I don't want any damage because of these cams! I know there have been some manufacturers that have had issues with certain components wearing out VERY quickly (comp cams and the rocker arms, I think it was perhaps?) Can anyone offer some more insight into this? Any REAL reasons why I might not want to get either of these cams? Or any reasons why I would want one over the other?
    Interesting....you're not willing to try more aggressive cams because your worried about damage, yet your going to be a guinea pig of prototype performance parts for Fushigi?
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      #3
      I'm not willing to try more aggressive cams because anything above Stage 1 requires a valvetrain upgrade... and doesn't make THAT much more power. A valvetrain upgrade, even a cheaper one, will be at least $500, and require more skill than I myself have (meaning I would have to pay for a mechanic to perform that work, while I can do just the cams myself). I AM concerned about wear with a cheaply made cam, but I'm hoping Stage 1 is mild enough that I don't have to worry.

      SteveB, that's exactly what I was thinking. It seems that many of the F22 guys are satisfied with regrinds, but there has to be a reason why many regrind companies refuse to work with VTEC cams. I know regrinding a cam does change the geometry, which is known to cause wear.

      OBX again is looking pretty good to me! (I'm already getting their LSD)






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        #4
        anyways...i've heard good things from Rocket Motorsports H22 cam regrinds, but nothing on the OBX
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          #5
          Originally posted by deevergote

          OBX again is looking pretty good to me! (I'm already getting their LSD)
          is it available yet???

          No projects at the moment... danm

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            #6
            The LSD should be released in about a week and a half. I'll keep you guys updated!

            If the OBX cam is a billet core, rather than a regrind or cast piece, and ground to the same specs as the Skunk2 cams, what could the problem be? Could the material be inferior and/or dangerous for the motor?






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              #7
              what about webcams.
              has any used it?.
              im thinking about buying the stage2 cam and it does not reqire any valvetrain mods.
              im swidish and i have a EDM Accord EX(R) with the F22A3(150hp) engine.

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                #8
                yes it might not require Valvetrain upgrade, BUT if you wanna rev higher than stock redline with stage2s(which i highly suggest beacuse you make power past it) you will have to upgrade, just my .02 cents.

                to bad rocket doesnt make m22s or something for our motors.
                H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

                190.3whp 155 wtq - with bolt ons, and a dc header

                ET=14.457 @ 94mph w/ 2.173 60Fter

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                  #9
                  When I go for something more aggressive, I'm planning to go with Crower or Skunk2. For now though, I just want the cheap Stage 1 cams.

                  2point6 currently uses Web cams, and they're obviously doing well for him. I think they are more expensive than the options I'm looking at.






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                    #10
                    the arent so expensive.
                    only 230dollars.
                    fair idle and strong too redline.
                    please check them out and tell me what you think about the parametres..
                    http://www.webcaminc.net/

                    are we talking too f22 or h22 here?.
                    Last edited by patrik.johnson; 03-20-2005, 07:13 AM.
                    im swidish and i have a EDM Accord EX(R) with the F22A3(150hp) engine.

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                      #11
                      Might as well listen to the hype and buy skank2's or something...

                      What is everyone's deal with talking shit about regrinds...???

                      I mean honestly...other than what everyone seems to say about them just because they heard it or read it somewhere...

                      I've heard of more Crower and skank2 billet cams snapping than regrinds...

                      and my Delta regrind withstood a snapped timing belt at 7k... fared better than the valves... many of which caused rocker arm damage... and the lobes were still perfectly within spec... hell even though the woodruff key area got severely screwed it was easily fixed... even the machine shop guys that fixed it were impressed after they heard what had happened...and even moreso when they saw the damaged head...

                      Don't believe the hype about regrinds for gawd's sake...

                      everyone who has run Rocket's stuff has been nothing but happy...
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by patrik.johnson
                        the arent so expensive.
                        only 230dollars.
                        fair idle and strong too redline.
                        please check them out and tell me what you think about the parametres..
                        http://www.webcaminc.net/

                        are we talking too f22 or h22 here?.
                        Sorry, I keep forgetting not EVERYONE knows what I'm running I'm talking H22, which is about $550 from Web.

                        Zigen, that's pretty much where I'm stuck. Everything I've read (from reliable sources, and many of them) say that regrinds aren't good for a motor. Everyone I know that has a regrind has absolutely no problem. SO, I'm torn... Do I trust the professionals with vast general knowledge, or the amateurs with experience? From what I've heard, a cam should never snap if it is installed correctly. Again, I have no experience, so that's just going on other people's word.

                        Now, the Rocket cams... I can't really understand what they're saying on their site. Are they $350 a set, or is that after a core return? The OBX cams are $350 clear, I know that for a fact.






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                          #13
                          Delta an option? It's affordable, and proven hp gains from their stage 1 and 2. I went with them 2 times, and would do it again in a heartbeat.
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                            #14
                            Delta doesn't do VTEC cams, unfortunately. That would be a good option. Of course, since my 86 hatchback isn't running at the moment, I couldn't afford the downtime to send my current cams out anyway.






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                              #15
                              any word on the pricing of the lsd? And what tranny's are they releasing it for?

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