My goal of 13s...

[98vtec]

i never actually weighed it, just a guess. shit im prolly under 2500 now lol.

back then i had no trunk, no back seat, ac, ps, cruise, evap, egr a few other things i cant remember .

now all i have is bare essentials. still have the dash but there is nothing under it, no abs, removed 35lbs of wiring, 5 gallon fuel cell...etc

[deevergote]

Holy crap. You're one step above kentucky_accord's featherweight shell (which I think has been scrapped by now... but I believe he had it under 2000lbs)

[91H22ACB7]

if you were wanting to do it on slicks, this wouldnt be a big deal. but the full weight is still gonna kill it.

i did 14.0@97 with slicks on my stock internal h22a (made 173whp at the time) back in the day but had a good amount of weight reduction. It had a high 13 in it. I made 188whp before i went with my built motor but never got a chance to go back to the track.

i had about 2500-3000 in my stock setup weighing around 2700 lbs.

200whp is difficult when when start out at 170whp.

not trying to bring you down or anything but i like being realistic with people.

No hurt feelings here man.
I asked for opinions and personal experiences right?

Any street tires you'd recommend?
I'm cutting the 2.2 60fts on cheap Primewell PZ900 205/55/15s.

How about when I go to smack some drs on the car? Any certain ones you'd recommend?

[Flatline]

I think we're underestimating what a good tune can do.

Coming from a guy i would call more than an expert, (personal friend of my dads. Built and drives the fastest N/A big block in the country in 09 with an 8.25 1/4 on pump gas) you can yield unheard of amounts of power from a PERFECT tune. He told me hes seen what had to be over 100whp gains from perfecting a tune at the track.

Of course, thats factoring everything from ambient air temperature, to humidity, track temp, even wind direction and speeds. And granted, that is a gain with his 1200whp duster, i still feel that your not giving the tune enough credit. im sure with everything setup right and tuned by Vega, this car could see 25+ whp gain over the basemap its on. thats why Vega isn't cheap.

EDIT: For anyone thats interested, this is Eddies car. and my numbers were off. 1400whp and 1800+ ft/lbs

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/e...-has-3715.html

[rexload]

75shot + some used slicks. Get the 13.x time slip. Then sell the spray and the slicks and bam it will cost you little to nothing.

[deevergote]

I think we're underestimating what a good tune can do.

Coming from a guy i would call more than an expert, (personal friend of my dads. Built and drives the fastest N/A big block in the country in 09 with an 8.25 1/4 on pump gas) you can yield unheard of amounts of power from a PERFECT tune. He told me hes seen what had to be over 100whp gains from perfecting a tune at the track.

Of course, thats factoring everything from ambient air temperature, to humidity, track temp, even wind direction and speeds. And granted, that is a gain with his 1200whp duster, i still feel that your not giving the tune enough credit. im sure with everything setup right and tuned by Vega, this car could see 25+ whp gain over the basemap its on. thats why Vega isn't cheap.

EDIT: For anyone thats interested, this is Eddies car. and my numbers were off. 1400whp and 1800+ ft/lbs

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/e...-has-3715.html

Yeah, but Honda engines are a bit different. Smaller displacement, tighter tolerances, and ECU tunes that are difficult to improve. The P13 can be improved upon a bit. The PT3 and PT6 are almost perfect tunes for the stock F22A.

75shot + some used slicks. Get the 13.x time slip. Then sell the spray and the slicks and bam it will cost you little to nothing.

He could always go rent a Corvette as well. That'd put him in the 13s.

[SOHC-FTW]

I've seen alot of bolt on H22's hit the 200+whp mark.Most of which are in eg's a car DG has worked with is expected to do low 12's here in a very soon on slicks partially gutted i think it makes 215whp give or take, but has already ran in the 12s.I don't know what it makes now i'm sure they have tweaked it a bit.
In a cb full weight on streets You might have issue with the 13 goal, but maybe not.Also depends on which H22 you have.

Found link to said car....
http://www.carolinahondas.com/dg-per...-rollcage.html

[deevergote]

If the goal is 13.999, that won't be TOO hard. 13 flat would be a different story.

[SOHC-FTW]

Hes got to shave .7 off his time.With the proper bolt on's and tune it can be done, but if not then it will be rough.It's really hard to say because power can be had, but weight and streets will slow his et's down alot.The old saying spinning isn't winning comes to mind because if you can't plant the power to the ground his 60ft won't improve much.
I think it is do able though just depends on how far he wants to take it.Like the H2b i posted they have went to extreme measures to get a stock internal H to where its at.

[h22sparkle]

a 50 shot will get you into the 13's easy if thats your goal.

[98vtec]

If the goal is 13.999, that won't be TOO hard. 13 flat would be a different story.

the problem is he wants to do it on street tires.

[deevergote]

Very true... though would an additional .6 sec really be that much more difficult to do on street tires? I know of plenty of mild H22s (bolt ons, maybe cams) that are capable of doing 14.5 in a CB7 on street tires.

My own CB7 has yet to break 15.0 (the last time it was raced, it got 15.023 with a badly slipping clutch.) so I have no personal experience with anything faster.

[trah]

3200lbs thats alot of weight... my 91 lx I got it down to 2700ish with me in it. Take some weight off and you will get to the 13's.

[91H22ACB7]

3200lbs thats alot of weight... my 91 lx I got it down to 2700ish with me in it. Take some weight off and you will get to the 13's.

Ehh, I dont know how valid my # is. The scale was at a scrap yard.

Found link to said car....
http://www.carolinahondas.com/dg-per...-rollcage.html

This is a thread I've been loosely basing some expectations off of.


Ceeloboob ran a 14.3 @ 98mph.

[SOHC-FTW]

James at DG knows his shit they have went to extrem measures to get that car where its at.No street tuned car its been tuned 5+ times now and keeps producing better power.Ofcourse the H2b kit helps alot aswell as the slick's and weight.Like i said before spinning isn't winning, but you can make the power to achieve your goals from lots of trail and error and tunning time.
H22powa(DG h2b project)
Kmod(K24 stg 4 rsx full weight 275whp'ish) and revn9k(H2b eg gutted 260whp) supposed to go at it this month all of which make more power than H22powa does and all N/A.