what kind of all motor h22 setups are there

[carps_accord]

hi just wondering what some of yall have for an all motor h22.
im just looking for some idea's and what not and go from there
pretty much im looking to get atleast 250hp out of my h22 on 91 pump.andwithout force induction what are some suggestions out there
help is greatly appreciated

[TuneAccordingly]

hi just wondering what some of yall have for an all motor h22.
im just looking for some idea's and what not and go from there
pretty much im looking to get atleast 250hp out of my h22 on 91 pump.andwithout force induction what are some suggestions out there
help is greatly appreciated

250whp? Bolt-ons and a few other mild mods should do the trick such as an I/H/E, pnp, upgraded fuel system, iridium spark plugs, and maybe an msd kit. You also want a gud clutch to put down the power.

An alternative to that would be what im actually going to do now that I have decided to get an h22 is to get the type s conversion kit off ebay with basic bolt-ons. (I also would like to spray but your basic bolt-ons and a good clutch with that setup should do the trick maybe even a mild pnp would be nice) The nice thing about this setup is that you'll have pretty beefy internals, forged eagle H-beam rods and vitara pistons capable of 350+ whp just in case you want to step it up a notch in the future

[carps_accord]

your post was uplifting for me, i'll take it one step at a time and see what i get, is there any right up on this type s conversion?
thanks for your tips

[mcdizzle]

you'll need higher compression, a good flowing header (SMSP or bisimoto when her has his done), either a skunk2 or euro-r manifold, possibly ITB's if your ballin enough, port-n-polished head, upgraded valve-train, and AT LEAST a stage 2 cam from crower/bisimoto/skunk2. basic bolt-ons arent going to get you anywhere near 250hp. you might gain 10hp AT MOST from i/h/e.

here is the build thread from when i was going to go all-motor on my h22 but i have since stopped my build due to lack of funds
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=112044

[fatboy1185]

raise the compression, and get some pro2 cams. I Highly doubt you'll make 250whp on stock cams, or even pro1's for that matter.

[carps_accord]

thanks guys, its appreciated...and thanks for the link im going to do some reading now

[h22sparkle]

I would honestly give collective racing a call

[TuneAccordingly]

your post was uplifting for me, i'll take it one step at a time and see what i get, is there any right up on this type s conversion?
thanks for your tips

Well I haven't seen a write up on that here as of yet, but I guess you never know what you may find with the search button (although Im still tryna get the hang of it lol)

[carps_accord]

here are a few pics of what im building, it's a little dirty but ill gett'er nice a shined up

[KeeleDesign]

here a good thread if u decide skunk2 IM

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=126529

You''ll want to start by at least upgrading your pistons.

Mahle Gold Series are what i used. They are forged pistons with side skirts that keep them from harming the FRM stock sleeves in the H22 block.

http://www.axidworks.com/mahlegoldh22pistons.html

In my build I had decided that 11:5:1 compression was for me.

Then i decided for the longevity of the motor that i would use an oem headgasket.

Also ARP Head Studs and Main studs would be a good investment to keep her held together if you decide to hit above 8,500 rpm's.

If your's isn't a type S model, I would def upgrade your oil pump as well, you can either have one modified or buy a type s. You do not want to loose oil pressure at anytime.

while it's apart a good balancing job and polish on the crankshaft would make this sucker have a smooth life and your bearings would love you for it.

As for the rods, yeah. andy forged rod is better than stock, for a NA motor the idea is to get the lightest strongest rods you possibly can. but make sure these are balanced as well.

When upgrading anything on the head i would just enlarge the exhaust valves with fierra valves, and maybe think about some higher grade springs and retainers, for a stage 2 or 3 camshaft.

to adjust this to get all the power you can you will also need a good Bisi Cam gears.

http://bisimoto.net/store/index.php?...roducts_id=212

a 3 or 5 angle port job would def help with this high revving beast.

to protect yourself from further failure, you could upgrade your belts to greddy as i had done, and also be sure and change your auto tensioner for your timing belt, to a manual one.... you'll love yourself for doing so.

Another option to protect yourself from bearing failure you could get a dampened crank pully to help keep the vibrations down every time that crank is rotating.

the next thing i would do to remove any chance of failing and unleashing more kanetic energy , would be the balance shaft, ket the kaizenspeed kit here.

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/kaiz...kit-p-373.html

If your talking 250 whp that means you'll most likely be closer to the 300 at the flywheel so some oem dsm fuel injectors might be a good call as well.

I'd stick with the euro r intake manifold maybe with a skunk2 throttle body.

Also be sure to stick with a short ram intake as dyno results have shown that CAI tend to snuff out top end power on Vtec motors.

A custome painted valve cover done by me could lets say 50 hp alone!


no but seriously, when bisi gets done with his header and a good cat back exhaust like greddy evo 2... you would have a great dependable monster on your hands.

I would also go with a lil cooler sparkplug as well, but thats just been my experience with really hot powerplants.

You don't want to skimp though,, be sure and use grade A lubricants for the motor and change verry frequently.

be sure and get a chippable ecu that you can have programed and tuned,, and have it tuned at a dynoshop as thats the best bang for your buck most the time.

Remember that a lightened car can make up for some ponies if you are on a budget.


GL and let me know when you start the build thread.

[bmxicansd]

Your going to need alot of head and valve work, headers, and alot of money ..

[dbsharp]

250whp? Bolt-ons and a few other mild mods should do the trick such as an I/H/E, pnp, upgraded fuel system, iridium spark plugs, and maybe an msd kit. You also want a gud clutch to put down the power.

An alternative to that would be what im actually going to do now that I have decided to get an h22 is to get the type s conversion kit off ebay with basic bolt-ons. (I also would like to spray but your basic bolt-ons and a good clutch with that setup should do the trick maybe even a mild pnp would be nice) The nice thing about this setup is that you'll have pretty beefy internals, forged eagle H-beam rods and vitara pistons capable of 350+ whp just in case you want to step it up a notch in the future

You would have a hard time using vitara pistons in a f22 considering that standard size vitara pistons are 10mm too small in diameter.

250 whp is definantly a respectable number for a na h22. You will need to do a lot of work to get there. If you have the budget you should seriously consider increasing your displacement.

[carps_accord]

by increasing the displacement you mean engine boring?
im proudly working on that...so far ive decided i would go with the type s pistons .20 over, eagle rods, mild head work(depending on the price,seems more expensive then block work), bisimoto stg 2 cams aswell as the springs and valves and it would probably be safe to say i should replace the cam rollers. ill also try to get me a jasma header and SK2 intake manifold, aswell as s300 ecu. money isn't really an issue..its just putting the parts together in conjunction with each other to get the best results
so basically on a run down i would like to atleast see 250hp on 91 octane

i appreciate all the input...more is always a bonus, whats your opinion on some of the parts im thinking of getting?...i know i didnt state anything about new gaskets..im fully aware and will be using oem for the majority of gasket seals and what not

[robert@bisimoto]

You could go with with Bisimoto/Arias shelf 11:1 cr pistons (forged aluminum and we use them in all the Bisimoto race and street cars), for a fraction of the cost of the Mahle. And if you bore out the block or want a higher compression we can custom design and fabricate a piston for that application as well. They come will piston rings, pins and wire Locks

[KeeleDesign]

You could go with with Bisimoto/Arias shelf 11:1 cr pistons (forged aluminum and we use them in all the Bisimoto race and street cars), for a fraction of the cost of the Mahle. And if you bore out the block or want a higher compression we can custom design and fabricate a piston for that application as well. They come will piston rings, pins and wire Locks

True only if..... he was going to sleeve the block, and that is alot more costly, than just a set of mahle gold series pistons.

Might as well sleeve it while your at it though.