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    Thinking all motor

    I was thinking i dont feel like sleeving. So i might as well do all motor. i was thinking this set up

    Skunk2 stage-2 cams
    Skunk2 camgears
    Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers
    Skunk2 Manifold
    Mild port and polish if i can
    Throttle body upgrade
    Competition Clutch Fly wheel
    Headers
    Thermal Exhaust
    Cold Air intake
    Aem Fuel Rail
    Aem Pullys
    Crank Pulley
    255 Fuel pump
    Have lsd all ready
    Some Bf Goodrich or Falken Slicks
    Tuned
    What do uthink ill be able to run????

    Do they make any type of pistons where i wont have to sleeve i heard jun does but not sure

    What else can i do all motor ppl help

    #2
    Ahhh im glad to see you went the all motor route, welcome to the club, hit me up and well chat about what are possible ideas.im thinking....ITB'S!!!!
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      #3
      h22 type s pistons drop in without sleeving, i would also have ur crank knife edged and balanced while the motor was out. then a full valve train of ur choice with a severe port n polish, and a prospeed header. maybe even a bored throttle body but make sure ur intake mani is portmatched to ur head.

      sorry if that was all unclear im really tired still, its the morning. BLAH, and i have no work
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        #4
        is it true u cant port and polish alot cause u lose vetec then

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          #5
          Originally posted by mayberry4thgen
          h22 type s pistons drop in without sleeving
          Yeah, that's what i thought as well. From what i understand, the FRM (stock) sleeves do not accomodate forged pistons. But the Type -S should be aight. 11:1 Especially with all the otha shit you're tryin to do. That motor would be off tha chain.

          I was wondering. If one goes with an aftermarket(lighter) crank pulley, does it throw off the motors"balance"? Just curious.

          I think i still wanna boost the H-twizz tho.
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            #6
            does jun make pistons? H22aparkle 2point6 any advice
            Last edited by ACCORDinglynice; 11-11-2004, 05:36 PM.

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              #7
              I'm assuming you have a H22?

              If so, I would say your largest gain would be in some nice true non-regrind cams & related lightweight/strong valvetrain components, nice flowing header & exhaust, a suitable intake manifold w/ some P&P work if need be for what your goal is (street or drag power), larger throttle body if needed, intake...u'll need to upgrade your fuel system some to accomodate ur cam (cam gears, fuel psi reg...I'm not sure if u'll need larger injectors or fuel pump....u might just get away with raising the fuel psi)....and tune ur engine to run the most reliable power with these cams.

              engine already has decent compression, although you might be able to mill the cyl head some to increase it a little more w/out internal work (see if you need to reset timing, etc)......if you have money lying around you can put in lighter rods and lighter higher compression pistons....but if u went this route, I would honestly sleeve it and get enough of a larger bore that you would actually reap gains from + higher compression.

              good clutch to catch all the torque & nice tires on decently light rims (no heavy 18" ,etc)...short shifter would prolly help ya with speed shifting & readjust ur clutch pedal so it's to ur liking & u can shift as fast as possible
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                #8
                engine already has decent compression, although you might be able to mill the cyl head some to increase it a little more




                What u mean mil the cyl head. Sorry im a retart when it comes to engine work

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ACCORDinglynice
                  engine already has decent compression, although you might be able to mill the cyl head some to increase it a little more




                  What u mean mil the cyl head. Sorry im a retart when it comes to engine work
                  The machinist can tell you how much (if any) he can take some material off the cylinder head mating surface, to in short...cause your cyl head not to be as think and reduce the size of your combustion chamber, increasing your compression ratio. It's like the poor man's way of doing this, instead of buying/installing higher compression pistons. However, milling the head (depending on the existing design of cyl head) can or will unshroud the valves, therefore helping you to flow air easier in and out of the head.
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                    #10
                    Also, find out if you will truly need a Walbro fuel pump & also the AEM fuel rail may not be needed as well (but since your into showing your car, it would accent the engine bay). Your call.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ACCORDinglynice
                      is it true u cant port and polish alot cause u lose vetec then
                      VTEC is it's own system controlled by the ECU and it's individual components (VTEC solenoid, etc). What you need to watch out for, is to get all-motor performance VTEC camshafts. But porting and polishing your intake manifold and/or cylinder head shouldn't bother anything, but help you flow better in and out. Although, I keep hearing the H22 cyl head is one of the best in terms of flow, so to save money that's why I said mill the cyl head, get a diff intake manifold or P&P the stock one, good exhaust, intake system, nice cams, upgrade what's needed to get enough fuel and tune your car, good clutch & lightened/strong valvetrain for your cams to rev ur valves fast & high

                      if u still want more power....add nitrous
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                        #12
                        I say forget skunk, just use their cam gears. Go with Crower Stage 2 Cams springs and retainers, but get the cams that keep/use the stock idle lobe. This way you have aggressive cams, but the idle is not affected due to the stock lobe they use.

                        this is from their site:
                        Features #63422 Stage 2 VTEC lobe with stock idle lobes for improved street performance. Recommend spring/retainer kit, but only above stock rev limit.

                        http://crower.com/cat/import/honda/camshafts.shtml


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by acch22
                          I say forget skunk, just use their cam gears. Go with Crower Stage 2 Cams springs and retainers, but get the cams that keep/use the stock idle lobe. This way you have aggressive cams, but the idle is not affected due to the stock lobe they use.

                          this is from their site:
                          Features #63422 Stage 2 VTEC lobe with stock idle lobes for improved street performance. Recommend spring/retainer kit, but only above stock rev limit.

                          http://crower.com/cat/import/honda/camshafts.shtml
                          that sounds like a good daily driver idea for H22 setup
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                            #14
                            mil the head till what

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by acch22
                              I say forget skunk, just use their cam gears. Go with Crower Stage 2 Cams springs and retainers, but get the cams that keep/use the stock idle lobe. This way you have aggressive cams, but the idle is not affected due to the stock lobe they use.

                              this is from their site:
                              Features #63422 Stage 2 VTEC lobe with stock idle lobes for improved street performance. Recommend spring/retainer kit, but only above stock rev limit.

                              http://crower.com/cat/import/honda/camshafts.shtml
                              They tend to brake apart if they aren't used with stock or crower valvetrain (4th post down):
                              http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...5&pagenumber=2
                              just a warning in case anyone was planing on useing crower cams with anything other then crower valvetrain. also be sure you get them installed by a shop that knows exactly what they are doing. I've heard of a few people that had the cams brake apart from not installing them correctly (even though they thought they got them in right).
                              I personally wouldn't touch crower for those reasons. Go Skunk2
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