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    First turbo build, need guidance

    Like the title says, but this is what I've got to deal with so far. H22A sleeved, f22AX crank and I got a hold of gt45 turbo so first off, I'm looking at using eagle rods and wiseco pistons; but how much abuse can the wiseco pistons take? I've heard good things about em from a diff forum and am going off their statements. also is their an ecu or piggy back system that has an "anti lag system" on it? I've read about it but havent seen any systems that has it already programmed on it. I do plan on using the gt45 and I want to minimize the lag and this system seems the most promising way to do so. thanks for the help
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    EM? I assume you mean EMS?


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      #3
      i havent seen eagle rods for a f22/h23 i dont think

      gt45...fuck man, i hope thats a typo and you mean 35

      wiseco's are well made pistons and should meet the needs ofmost people who require them


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        #4
        coatings...coatings will help take heat out of the motor especially for a turbo.

        wiseco's are good fucking pistons. the eagles arent bad but i would rather go for something like carillo or crower rods for a nice turbo setup.

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          #5
          pistons

          do some more looking brothaman, I also am doing a first turbo build using the f22a6 engine, all I can say to you from what I have researched is take your time and understand how it works, dont just throw it on and expect to be at an enormous amount of horsepower.

          Since this will be my first build I also am going to use a stock engine just to work out all the little particulars.

          good luck and keep us updated.

          Keep that compression low with the pistons tho!
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            #6
            Anti lag with a GT45? Thats not even possible. lol

            If you dont want the lag, you are going to have to invest in some Nitrous. It will help the turbo spool up quicker. Also You might want to build the engine right. That turbo will make boost HIGH up in the RPMS. So high revvs are a must.

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              #7
              hey guys not to be a ass but he says he using a sleeved h22a not a f22
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                #8
                Originally posted by boosted4life
                hey guys not to be a ass but he says he using a sleeved h22a not a f22
                your not an ass..

                but his turbo configuration with his bottom end will spin main bearings and rod bearings all day long...
                the f22 crank in the h22...
                dude with that turbo i highly recomend keeping the h22 crank or even a f20 crank.
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                  #9
                  oppps my bad didnt read he was using the f22a crank in the h
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                    #10
                    yea, you'll need the redline of a h22 to even push the gt35. unless you want to increase the displacement on the f series


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                      #11
                      that wasnt a type o on the gt45, buddy works on diesels and got a spare at his place, he said I could have it if I wanted to mess with it. Also like I said I just want to try to MINIMIZE lag; I am not whats so ever expecting no lag. I used the F crank for the extra throw, upping the displacement slightly. Found a site that tells how the ALS works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Lag_System I've been reading "maximum boost" by corky bell to help with the set up and just all around info. With using the F crank why do I have to be more worried about spinning bearings than if I used the H? the oil journal clearances are similar at which all the F clearances are in the H clearances... ...
                      Last edited by bigblue; 11-30-2007, 01:30 AM.
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                        #12
                        if the f22 crank has more stroke than that means more weight is being thrown around.

                        like a destroked motor will have more piston velocity because it will spin faster and not sit at the top of the stroke longer...

                        i think. :o
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                          #13
                          yes he was on the right path of telling you the reason why you will throw your bearings.

                          without getting to techinical, you can make the crank work well if you stay in a generally low rpm powerband with no worries. but i haven't seen any hybrids like you want to attempt last over 3 months reving as high as h22's like too. and thats N/A

                          You might be able to get some oil scrappers and toga oil pump to help with the oil flow and consistancy of it , but you will have to remove your oil squirters to make the crank fit, thus loosing the cooling effect on the rods at high rpm's, but you can.. get some crower rods and cryo treat everything and maybe save yourself in the end...

                          it is possible but expensive..

                          i recomend in my personal opinion to get a smaller turbo that has full boost at say 3000 rpm's that way it more fun to drive and safer on a long lasting motor...
                          just a thought
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                            #14
                            I see, so lets say I keep the H crank in it; an then on a diff turbo, what would you suggest, a 35?
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                              #15
                              the h crank is a great crank. but your power will come up high and it will come fast and hard, turbo size i am not sure i also have that turbo book you have and it has great calculaters to go by for the displacement of your motor.
                              remember it's more math than anything, and alot of it when it comes to a great turbo car, when i get home from work I'll try to help add everything up for ya.. because i am sure you want your motor to last a few years with great power and response.
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