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Evo 3 16g turbo upgrade!
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dang chill out thread jackers, as for me i just bought my big evo 3 16g from turbochargers. thanks to straightedge.~Nick~
FSAE (F Series Accord Enthusiasts) ..."A dying breed thats taking it to the next level" Lucky #13
MR Thread:http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ight=Grumpys93
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ya, solid choice. And like i said, with any decent FMIC, the efficiency difference will be negligable (72 to 74 or something in our range).
And it's totally capable for the 14b to make 230whp. AccordR33 made 197 with a STOCK exhaust.
Any exhaust upgrade and decent tune could get you another 30hp.
The Stock o2 housing is a restriction...tubular output is better. And any free flowing exhaust will help too. As long as the intercooler isn't tiny (tiny like a stock DSM one), then you'll be fine.
I'd put the limit of that turbo at around 240 wheel though at our 8-9psi limit for stock blocks. Hits chocking otherwise. ON the DSM 2L they can make 260 wheel, but that's at like 18+psi...it's a bit more efficient up there.
For anyone going with a stock setup, i think the 14b is the choice to go with...a nice reliably tuned 210-220whp is perfect, and nicely spooling.
I find it funny when people say, "man it doesn't pull up top", but they forget our stock motors don't pull up top. The turbo adds symetrical power to our Volumetric efficiency and the power curve will remain the same.
Just my 2 cents.
Oh, and intercooler sizing is overrated.
on my 16g i run 2" piping...i did however see a 2psi pressure drop off the entire system...so to account i take the wastegate signal off the TB to hold a steady 9psi (it just makes the turbo work 'slightly' harder...but it's almost more efficient in the higher pressure ratios anyways)...so don't fret on piping size. I'd say 2.25" would be ideal though. 2.5" is overkill unless you're pushing 350+whp
Mark
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Well shit if 14b's are making 230whp i must definately be over the 250+whp range on my 16g..i have a full 3" exhaust....i also have the a6 motor which puts out a bit more hp. So i guess im wrong h22sparkle..i still think id have the upper hand if your running a 14b f22.
And about pulling up top..my 16g pulls right to 6200. Not as strong as mid range..but still nicely.1992 Honda Prelude S - Swapped F22A6 - Turbo 16g Powered!
Mods: 3" Exhaust,450CC Injectors, DSM Manifold, DSM Ported 16g, Stealthmode Oil Line Kit, RFL BOV, JDM Black Housing Headlights, Clear Corners, Tinted Tails, Forbidden Short Shifter, Front Mount Intercooler, Chipped and Tuned P06 ECU - Tuned With Uberdata, Lowered 1.7,6 Puck Clutch"
PARTING OUT F22A1
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Save your money and be prepared to lose it. Anyway like I was saying imma push that turbo to its limits. And my boy nick with his eclipse is runnin 300whp on his 14b and outran an evo that had 250whp. I have a paper its in my documents I can try to get that shit tommorrow but i dont know how im gonna post it up on cb7tuner without a scanner.
I cant wait as a matter of fact when you take it to the track imma be ready and i want everyone on cb7tuner to witness that shit. You may think you have the upper hand but by then before you even realize your in boost ill be 3 cars ahead of you. Your prelude is heavy, boost works better in our cars. Boost will serve your car no purpose as far as it being in a lude. Pennsylvania sorry your barking up the wrong tree now imma fall on you. Back to topic and keep my name out your mouth.
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Originally posted by d112crzyludes are not that much heavier, at least not enough to make even half a second difference.
anyways, good luck on your setup. get er tooned.
I hope you can make it to the Washington spring meet.
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so the motors suck? dont they come with the almighty h22? they also come with the f22a1, which is what your other one has. in saying the motors suck, you're saying your motors suck.
either way, he has the f22a6, which is better than your a1, he also has a better turbo.
anyways, westside, who is gona tune you?
CrzyTuning now offering port services
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by the way, you can get cheap ass eeproms from mouser.com
heres the link
http://www.mouser.com/search/Product...4-27SF5127CPGE
CrzyTuning now offering port services
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how much do accords weigh..remember the prelude s weighs in at 2750 stock..i have quite a few weight reductions...keep shit talkingLast edited by ludeude1992; 01-26-2007, 10:51 PM.1992 Honda Prelude S - Swapped F22A6 - Turbo 16g Powered!
Mods: 3" Exhaust,450CC Injectors, DSM Manifold, DSM Ported 16g, Stealthmode Oil Line Kit, RFL BOV, JDM Black Housing Headlights, Clear Corners, Tinted Tails, Forbidden Short Shifter, Front Mount Intercooler, Chipped and Tuned P06 ECU - Tuned With Uberdata, Lowered 1.7,6 Puck Clutch"
PARTING OUT F22A1
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umm, I wouldnt know what he uses.
I do know he USED to use the atmel 29c....chips. but those are discontinued.
but these chips are just as good. Just remember, if you have a willems burner, you will have to reset the little switches differently than what you had them at for the atmel chips.
if you have the moates, just select the chip type and you're good to go.
CrzyTuning now offering port services
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Back From The Dead!!!
I finally got a m'n'f'n evo3 16g turbo and its so sweet, it is used, but it was local so no shipping. 400 bones! no shaftplay and pretty clean on all round.
Well thats the beggining of my newest turbo cb7 buildup,
on order are wiseco 85.5 forged pistons, with wiseco rings
billet crower rods with wrist pins and locks, said to boost-able to 30psi!
that set me back 1200+ so far from raceeng.com but they are easy to deal with, and have all of what I need!
I also recently bought a 2g dsm manifold, still has yet to be redrilled. paid 40 bux for.
On deck to be ordered as paycheques roll in,
new ebay black 2.5inch IC piping,
tubular O2 housing, with atmospheric dump,
bearings, seals, gaskets...
3" exhaust work,
egt probe/sensor
manifold is already bunged for it!
Custom knock sensor,
headwork is gonna be done by my brother in Nanaimo, BC.
he said hes gonna do 5 angle valve job, shim the springs a bit for 6500 or so redline, port and polish, etc.
Also need anodized a/n fittings and ss feed line.
I kinda want to relocate my oil filter, battery to the trunk and heat wrap all engine bay intake/exhaust/charge piping!
I promise more pics to come!!!
WaC!
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