ok a continutation from lowcords boost thread. wikked you said that a f22a wouldn't need to run as much boost to keep up with a 4g63T... how is that? i know that the f22 is rather torquey, but the 4g63 isn't exactly lacking. i was under the impression that stock f22ax's couldn't run more than 8 or 9 psi. so how could it run with a 4g63 running 18psi??
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ur misunderstanding what im saying..
the 4g63 can handle gobs of boost because its block was built for it.. but the increase in power.. psi per psi isnt as great as the accord.. considering ur dumping 20psi into a car and its only running 15s... sorry to pull the proof but.. merediths dsm (mrx's gf) ran upwards of 19psi out of her t25 and ran it at the track.. 15.1 i think she ran something or other.. now.. 10psi on a cb7 gets it into the 14s.. u see the difference? almost half the amount of boost is required to get the same result.. and SINCE in fact half the amount of boost is required.. the turbo itself doesnt have to work as hard
less strain on turbo = cooler air.. etc etc.. we discussed this
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here is another example.
when i did my dyno day. there was a VW GTi 1.8T there at the dyno with me. He was running 17 PSI. i was running 8psi
the numbers were as follows:
f22-t, 195whp 215tq
1.8t, 199whp, 211tq
he was running more than TWICE the boost i wasComment
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what he said^^^
cha-ching
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It's all bout air flow really....Comment
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wow something is wrong then because my car with only an intake lost to a wrx by two car length going from a stop to 100mph last night... and i beat my friends celica that ran a 14.7 from a 30mph roll... that should put me somewhere in the 14's... i know those aren't track times with slips but stock eclipses are supposed to be in the high 14's if i am correct... and you have to remember stock eclipses have a t25 that is pretty much maxed out when you buy the car. on my stock car it won't even hold boost past 5000rpms; redline is at 7000rpm, thus the reason i am buying a 14b. but don't get me wrong, I LOOOOOVE BOOSTED F22A's but i have a lot of respect for the 4g63. not trying to start shit, just trying to educate myself. and wikked and mrx you guys should check out the off topic link and tell me what you think about the 14b i plan on getting... it would be greatly appreciatedOriginally posted by WiKKeDV16Comment
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the idea is not that the 4g63 has less potential. all carlos is trying to say is that
psi for psi. an F22a will make more power than a 4g63. assuming everything else is constantComment
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static compression ratios play a huge part in the power of each engine.
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Is anyone forgetting that the F22 is actually larger thann the 4G63? More room for more air and fuel helps create more power too.Comment
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well dont forget few things...Originally posted by Accord R33
- k03 in that gti is barealy the size of a grapefruit lol
- 1.8 vs 2.2 22% larger engine then theirsh23a3 cb7 turbo sold
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Plus you probbly had a bigger turbo, eh?Originally posted by prodigymbComment
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i didnt forget that...thats my whole point...Originally posted by prodigymbComment
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people with dsm's run 20+psi on t25... so they obviously don't care about efficiencyOriginally posted by ACC0RD22Comment
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LOL I second that!Originally posted by flacopowerComment
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