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    #16
    If two engines make the same power originally, but they're TOTALLY different displacements/kinds of engines would they use the same turbo and make the same power? From what I understand it's all about airflow and the pressure ratio, right?


    Originally posted by lordoja
    im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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      #17
      (acclipseh23 - I've always had only the t3/t04e turbo...the 450's are the only thing thats DSM on me)

      Is there a compressor map you can show us?

      That turbo may be riding along the surge line with this motor. It may not even get into a good efficiency range without high revving and pushing high psi...so basically...need more info
      Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

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        #18
        Originally posted by gloryaccordy
        If two engines make the same power originally, but they're TOTALLY different displacements/kinds of engines would they use the same turbo and make the same power? From what I understand it's all about airflow and the pressure ratio, right?
        too many variables...but i'd say no, never expect similar results from the same engines much less different ones. It comes down to airflow, compression, the exhausts efficiency, how much timing can be run, cam profiles, number of cylinders, bore x stroke, etc
        Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

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          #19
          Originally posted by AcclipseH23
          You obviously missed my buildup thread...And i got a 700whp Z on 93 octane...I think I know a lil something about turbocharging...(just a lil) .

          Project Homebrew

          The reason why the injectors were not picked for that turbo is because I feel that with proper tuning I can get away with 1000cc injectors and keep them for a larger turbo in the future. And lets not mention, I have my turbo cams already...

          maybe i'm confused, but what does any of this have to do with what i said?

          never did i say anything that disagreed with your previous post.

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            #20
            Originally posted by 90boostdaccord
            maybe i'm confused, but what does any of this have to do with what i said?

            never did i say anything that disagreed with your previous post.
            Damn you confused me like hell with your first post...address the person you are talking to or talking about...too many turbo guys in here...

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              #21
              the both of you are confusing now shut up and get back to the post
              Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

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                #22
                Originally posted by midnite racer x
                the both of you are confusing now shut up and get back to the post
                Oh shut up... . As for the charge pipe question labatt50 had...I ran 2.5 all the way through but thats also for my future upgades. I also killed the AC and PS so I had extra room. I think 2.5 is fine but if you run all the piping on the passanger side, use 2" from the turbo going to the IC and 2.5 from the IC to the TB. That way you have some space .

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                  #23
                  i have a 16g , its pretty small. u can get 240-250 whp out of it at 10-11 psi but i d go bigger.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by AcclipseH23
                    Oh shut up... . As for the charge pipe question labatt50 had...I ran 2.5 all the way through but thats also for my future upgades. I also killed the AC and PS so I had extra room. I think 2.5 is fine but if you run all the piping on the passanger side, use 2" from the turbo going to the IC and 2.5 from the IC to the TB. That way you have some space .
                    My AC is already out but i'd like to keep the PS... i missed so much my PS i had in my turbo civic.

                    And i think i'm going to do like you said for the charge pipe, turbo to fmic 2" and fmic to TB 2.5"

                    Originally posted by prodigymb
                    i have a 16g , its pretty small. u can get 240-250 whp out of it at 10-11 psi but i d go bigger.
                    That's why i'm saying, i'd like to achieve my goal but at 7-8 psi with a sightly bigger turbo...

                    in term of trim size, how big is the dsm 16g? .42/.48?
                    i know there is the small 16g and the big 16g...

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                      #25
                      A big 16g (17c) can do it easily. I was originally going to use one for my stage 2 build. Instead tho, I figured for something a bit more extreme. I also think if you go bigger that a big 16g, go with 2.5 diameter charge piping all the way. Get a IC with a good CFM rating. Also, look for an IC with both inlet and outlets on the same side. Makes life easier for you.

                      Also since you are a HMT guy, an exhaust housing upgrade will work wonders on the 17c.

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                        #26
                        The 17c's (big 16g) housings are noticibly larger than the small 16gs. A port job may not be the only solution...

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by AcclipseH23
                          The 17c's (big 16g) housings are noticibly larger than the small 16gs. A port job may not be the only solution...
                          the compressor on my evo ii 16g is bigger thats also why its better then a small 16g. as far as what u said on charge piping. you can safely do 2 inch hot side charge piping and 2.5 inch cold side piping. the size of the air outlet on the big 16g is smaller then 2 inches so going bigger will create a pressure drop right away, since this is already done in the intercooler i just led the pipes to the intercooler in 2inches and after teh interfooler i did 2.5 and i also rewelded the 1st gen bov ontto a 2.5 inch pipe.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by prodigymb
                            ...the size of the air outlet on the big 16g is smaller then 2 inches so going bigger will create a pressure drop right away, since this is already done in the intercooler i just led the pipes to the intercooler in 2inches and after teh interfooler i did 2.5 and i also rewelded the 1st gen bov ontto a 2.5 inch pipe...

                            I got 2.5 all the way thru...8 stock wg psi still present...

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by AcclipseH23
                              I got 2.5 all the way thru...8 stock wg psi still present...
                              you have a 16g ??? that is very weird if u do because my 16g runs 10 psi on stock wastegate and no mbc
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by prodigymb
                                you have a 16g ??? that is very weird if u do because my 16g runs 10 psi on stock wastegate and no mbc
                                . I have a 14b still in the car....stock wg is set at 8psi. With my boost controller i push it up to 10 and 11psi.

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