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[carps_accord]

hi,i currently have a f22, but im planning on getting and h22a...and eventually i want to go the turbo route

how long will my motor last with the eagle forged pistons as compared to a sleeved bock?...if built properly can i expect a reliable motor?. i would like the the h22 over an f22 but at same time i like turbo's...so im still trying to decide if i should get a f22 dohc or a h22

[JoshM]

Hi, I'm buying a used Civic. How long will it be reliable?





Need more info.

What power are you expecting?
Boost level?
Will it be your DD?
Are you going to drive it hard? How often?

[jm991700]

hi,i currently have a f22, but im planning on getting and h22a...and eventually i want to go the turbo route

how long will my motor last with the eagle forged pistons as compared to a sleeved bock?...if built properly can i expect a reliable motor?. i would like the the h22 over an f22 but at same time i like turbo's...so im still trying to decide if i should get a f22 dohc or a h22

Well key rule is the more hp u have the lower the reliable it will be. More hp will cause more problems u may face. Broken tranny, throw a rod, drop a valve.it just depends.

I would recommend if u boost a h22, go ahead in sleeve it. Boost is addictive and u going to want more, so go ahead and take your time. Fully build it.

[mozzandherb]

Reliable? It can be, your best bet is to use quality parts and have someone who is knowledgeable in tuning, more specifically in tuning Honda engines. Do your research, don't cheap out on parts, expect things to go wrong and when they do, make sure you have the funds to have them fixed. I have been boosting on a stock h22 for three summers now, has it been reliable? Not the whole time, things have gone wrong, but I have had them fixed and right now (knock on wood) my cars running better than ever. Also I would also suggest to have a backup car in case you need it.

[carps_accord]

Reliable? It can be, your best bet is to use quality parts and have someone who is knowledgeable in tuning, more specifically in tuning Honda engines. Do your research, don't cheap out on parts, expect things to go wrong and when they do, make sure you have the funds to have them fixed. I have been boosting on a stock h22 for three summers now, has it been reliable? Not the whole time, things have gone wrong, but I have had them fixed and right now (knock on wood) my cars running better than ever. Also I would also suggest to have a backup car in case you need it.

totally agree with you on that, of course things will go wrong, but i guess i wasn't exactly clear in what i was asking..i was wondering if anyone blew out their cylinder wall or blew some rings or anything like spinning rods ,etc.

i want ateast 300hp,and this will serve as a summer/fall and parked in the garage for the winter. i plan on building it with only the best quality parts available ill figure all this out with some reading, but i just wanted some mono e mono convo's with people who have boosted H22's.

this shall be by motto:
fast and cheap=not reliable
reliable and cheap=not fast
and fast and reliable certainly isn't going to be cheap.<---EDIT

i do plan on finding some salvaged parts though.

[EJX_Michael]

totally agree with you on that, of course things will go wrong, but i guess i wasn't exactly clear in what i was asking..i was wondering if anyone blew out their cylinder wall or blew some rings or anything like spinning rods ,etc.

i want ateast 300hp,and this will serve as a summer/fall and parked in the garage for the winter. i plan on building it with only the best quality parts available ill figure all this out with some reading, but i just wanted some mono e mono convo's with people who have boosted H22's.

this shall be by motto:
fast and cheap=not reliable
reliable and cheap=not fast
and fast and reliable certainly is going to be cheap.

i do plan on finding some salvaged parts though.

Fast and reliable ≠ Cheap

[mozzandherb]

Well let's talk mane e mano...what do you want to know? Whether it will be reliable? I answered what I could on that, make sure you have a strong motor to begin with and the rest will follow. There are a number of routes you can take with your build, but it's your project so I don't know where you want to start?

[carps_accord]

Fast and reliable ≠ Cheap

yeah thats wat i meant to type lol was "not going to be cheap"

mozzanherb im more worried about major engine damage occuring with a turbo...things like replacing sensors and stuff are no big deal. im fairly good with car's.

i will probably start off with cams,valves/springs,rods,pistons. then go from there.,. also is it a good idea or a good benefit to lower the compression?, i really dont want to run anywhere past 14psi. what would everyone suggest?

[mozzandherb]

yeah thats wat i meant to type lol was "not going to be cheap"

mozzanherb im more worried about major engine damage occuring with a turbo...things like replacing sensors and stuff are no big deal. im fairly good with car's.

i will probably start off with cams,valves/springs,rods,pistons. then go from there.,. also is it a good idea or a good benefit to lower the compression?, i really dont want to run anywhere past 14psi. what would everyone suggest?

I would suggest to do some more research. Rods and pistons are a good idea, but you will need to re-sleeve the block to run forged pistons. Cams aren't really necessary. You can easily run 14psi with no problems. You say you're not too worried about gaskets, seals, sensors etc..that's good, but are you planning on building the motor yourself?

[carps_accord]

I would suggest to do some more research. Rods and pistons are a good idea, but you will need to re-sleeve the block to run forged pistons. Cams aren't really necessary. You can easily run 14psi with no problems. You say you're not too worried about gaskets, seals, sensors etc..that's good, but are you planning on building the motor yourself?

not in the sense of not replacing the used seals, i just mean under normal wear and tear conditions with the turbo shall a sensor or seal go bad it shouldnt be to big an issue, i just dont want broken metal engine parts thats all, im not scared ill just replace the part as i am pretty good with engines and what not. and yes im planning to build this myself, ive got a welder i just need welding gas, that should help me with a couple of things like tacking braces and stuff for the piping. so cams are not really needed?..i know ill def be getting some camgears.

[mozzandherb]

not in the sense of not replacing the used seals, i just mean under normal wear and tear conditions with the turbo shall a sensor or seal go bad it shouldnt be to big an issue, i just dont want broken metal engine parts thats all, im not scared ill just replace the part as i am pretty good with engines and what not. and yes im planning to build this myself, ive got a welder i just need welding gas, that should help me with a couple of things like tacking braces and stuff for the piping. so cams are not really needed?..i know ill def be getting some camgears.

You really want to make sure you have all the right specs when building motor, or else you'll be up shits creek. And you might as well save your money and not buy cam gears, they aren't really necessary unless you upgrade your cams.

[93_f22aky]

You really want to make sure you have all the right specs when building motor, or else you'll be up shits creek. And you might as well save your money and not buy cam gears, they aren't really necessary unless you upgrade your cams.

word... lol save ur money and put it tords sleeving it i am not big on h22s but if im not mistaken stock rods can take 300hp.... money in the pocket aswell. tunning is very importent when boosting an h22 well is importent when boosting and car. just do lots of research dont be like me and learn as u go.... lol ... hey year and a half on a stock f22a beaten the shit out of it evey time i drive her and still going strong... o with ur 14 psi u might start out at 10 or so then u will be like well ill go for a bar then come 20 psi or so . like it has been said boost is a hell of a drug. now all my exra money is going into my new prodject. i am not giving to many clues besides somewhere around 500 hp bets of luck to you

[lilpat93accord]

I would suggest to do some more research. Rods and pistons are a good idea, but you will need to re-sleeve the block to run forged pistons. Cams aren't really necessary. You can easily run 14psi with no problems. You say you're not too worried about gaskets, seals, sensors etc..that's good, but are you planning on building the motor yourself?

He can run the Mahle GoldSeries Pistons which are forged and won't have to re-sleeve the block

[mozzandherb]

He can run the Mahle GoldSeries Pistons which are forged and won't have to re-sleeve the block

Yes he can up to a certain point. But you're right for 14psi the Mahle's would be a good choice, but you still have to make sure that the sleeves are in good shape

[carps_accord]

thanks for all the pointers so far everyone, its making it more clearer. I've been doing some reading and what not on turbo's in general, but not so much on the h22 turbo, its great to hear i can use my stock cams and that i dont need cam sprockets., but if like a mild performance cam wont hurt too much i would like to install some, just for shits and giggles..i dont think ill by the cam gears though like recently suggested. what the hard part basically is though, is the calculations for tuning my motor, i guess ill leave that up to a specialist.