whos running a DSM set up?

[quickangel93]

boost controllers. what are those about? how do they control boost?


how do you control boost all together? is it the type of wastegate you use?


i want a good set up to where its something i can daily drive but also something that if a mustang or Camero pulls up on me i can hold my own. lol.


whats a set up you would recommend?

if you going with a dsm setup, you dont need a boost controller. loop the actuator fitting to the turbo charge outlet pipe fitting and your set.

as i dd i would go with 14b. i mean it pulls hard, and kills b18c civics. so i think you could take a 5.0 or a camaro.

[Shadow1]

if you going with a dsm setup, you dont need a boost controller. loop the actuator fitting to the turbo charge outlet pipe fitting and your set.

as i dd i would go with 14b. i mean it pulls hard, and kills b18c civics. so i think you could take a 5.0 or a camaro.

how much power could i be looking at with a 14b? the 1st gen eclipse comes with a 16g doesnt it?

[quickangel93]

how much power could i be looking at with a 14b? the 1st gen eclipse comes with a 16g doesnt it?

at 12 psi your looking at 240hp. 16g comes in the evo 3's

[Shadow1]

at 12 psi your looking at 240hp. 16g comes in the evo 3's

nice.

whats some other things i should know before and after i boost? ive read the stickies and all. just making sure i cover everything.


what hole is it that i need to get redrilled on the DSM manifold?

are the injectors a direct fit to the F22a intake manifold?

[drummersteve7]

hey brotha

how ya doin, good to hear your considering boost.

I would say stay away from the SMIC on the stock block.
Efficency-wise the turbo even felt better with a FMIC.
I found a nice stealthy FMIC that will still fit behind the bumper
so I am going that route with my next one.if you got any questions hit me up!

[quickangel93]

nice.

whats some other things i should know before and after i boost? ive read the stickies and all. just making sure i cover everything.


what hole is it that i need to get redrilled on the DSM manifold?

are the injectors a direct fit to the F22a intake manifold?

buy my turbo mani! 50 shipped.

nope, you have to cut the inside of the injector seals to get them to fit. i still dont get how joser got them to fit in.

[Shadow1]

how ya doin, good to hear your considering boost.

I would say stay away from the SMIC on the stock block.
Efficency-wise the turbo even felt better with a FMIC.
I found a nice stealthy FMIC that will still fit behind the bumper
so I am going that route with my next one.if you got any questions hit me up!

PM me your number man. ive got some questions about your set up

buy my turbo mani! 50 shipped.

nope, you have to cut the inside of the injector seals to get them to fit. i still dont get how joser got them to fit in.

ill let you know man. black_soul might be thinking about a DSM kit also. PM him about it so he'll know about that. ive been trying to see if i can get a DSM kit set up for him.

i looked at that instructions on installing a turbo on the forced induction thread and i saw that you have to use a drimmel in order for the injectors to fit.

[quickangel93]

PM me your number man. ive got some questions about your set up




ill let you know man. black_soul might be thinking about a DSM kit also. PM him about it so he'll know about that. ive been trying to see if i can get a DSM kit set up for him.

i looked at that instructions on installing a turbo on the forced induction thread and i saw that you have to use a drimmel in order for the injectors to fit.

yea thats what i used. i just cut the inside of the injector seals. yea let him know, cus im going big and bad, so this kit gotta go.

[evil_demon_01]

What no comment to my reply . . . lol j/p

Mike likes getting technical on dsm turbos now I see

Anyway, F22 dsm setups would be -
14B, 16G, and Big 16G (big 16G is "basically" a ported version of the 16G)

14B will spool fast, and is great if you love letting the BOV off around town.
16G spools slower and Is good if your driving around town but don't want to be in boost all the time.
Big 16G spools slightly slower again and is good for higher hp, and less/no boost when just cruising around generally.

[Boost_Lee]

1st gen DSM - 14b on the manuals, autos had a 13g.

my 16g evo 3 spooled very quick, never had an issue with lag at all. I cant even imagine a 14b. 16g is a good street turbo if you have hp plans below 400.

granted this is from like a 4k roll at 65, but you can see how fast this thing reacts. that at about -15 or 20vac to 10psi


and physical size-wise, the 16g isnt but a tad bigger than the 14b. Its the internals (and exhaust housing material on the evo3) that make up the difference.

(size comparison to a GT30R)
If ur on a budget and have a dsm setup readily availble, but will be set on a 16g. I'm just afraid they may run a lil hot when you start pushing it's limits.

[Chrisfrom1986]

as i dd i would go with 14b. i mean it pulls hard, and kills b18c civics. so i think you could take a 5.0 or a camaro.

No.

[Shadow1]

What no comment to my reply . . . lol j/p

Mike likes getting technical on dsm turbos now I see

Anyway, F22 dsm setups would be -
14B, 16G, and Big 16G (big 16G is "basically" a ported version of the 16G)

14B will spool fast, and is great if you love letting the BOV off around town.
16G spools slower and Is good if your driving around town but don't want to be in boost all the time.
Big 16G spools slightly slower again and is good for higher hp, and less/no boost when just cruising around generally.

this is the kind of info i was kinda looking for. so far the 16g seems to be something im looking for. driving around town i dont want to stay in boost all the time.

1st gen DSM - 14b on the manuals, autos had a 13g.

my 16g evo 3 spooled very quick, never had an issue with lag at all. I cant even imagine a 14b. 16g is a good street turbo if you have hp plans below 400.

granted this is from like a 4k roll at 65, but you can see how fast this thing reacts. that at about -15 or 20vac to 10psi


and physical size-wise, the 16g isnt but a tad bigger than the 14b. Its the internals (and exhaust housing material on the evo3) that make up the difference.

(size comparison to a GT30R)
If ur on a budget and have a dsm setup readily availble, but will be set on a 16g. I'm just afraid they may run a lil hot when you start pushing it's limits.

dag that thing picked up real quick wtf? lol. that would be nice to have something spool that quick.

whats this i hear about ball-bearing turbos? they spool faster or some crap like that.

No.

dont ever post in threads again if thats all your going to say. if your just going to have a one word post then that can be considered post whoreing and your post count get set back to zero. dont do it again. im asking for info, not some idiot that only post one word.

[chessboxer]

No.

Either post something informative, or do not post at all.

I know for a FACT that you can take many of those cars, especially from a roll.

Get one that is heavily modified, and perhaps not, but even on a mildly modded one, you will stand a good chance at handing it to them. Even a c5 vette will go down to a turbo cb7.

I speak from experience.

[chessboxer]

WG and BOV? yes. i understand how they work. more so the BOV. its not just there for the cool sound. its there so in between shifts when the trottle body closes, the turbo is still spinning(spooled), so the extra boost needs somewhere to go. so the BOV is there to vent the extra boost into the atmosphere.

as far as the WG, im not too sure as to how it works. internal verses external. im glad you told me about the boost creep and spikes thing tho. iv heard of too many turbo projects going sour because of boost creep and motors getting permanent peep holes to the internals from boost spikes. but i think its something like the BOV but it doesnt give you that sound that the BOV does


200-210whp is what im looking to get horsepower wise. if i can get that or even 190whp on a good tune then id be happy. i plan on going with a map from crzy.tuning or MRX.

Oh, a WG with an atmospheric dump sounds AWESOME. If you do not recirculate the wg dump tube back to the exhaust, it opens up and sounds nasty when the wg is open.

Essentially, the way a WG works is simple. Exhaust gasses spin the turbo, once the turbo is pushing a certain psi, there is a spring that pushes open the wg. The wg acts to divert air from spinning the turbo any further and keep it from producing more boost. If your wg is too small, you will end up seeing boost creep and spikes, as not enough air can be diverted quickly enough. An external wg is pretty much always best, although an internal wg is often times good enough.

If boost creep and spiking worries you, make sure your engine management has an overboost function. When you see, let's say 12 psi, it will cut fuel or ignition, or both. This prevents you from overboosting and blowing some shiz up, hopefully.

[Shadow1]

Either post something informative, or do not post at all.

I know for a FACT that you can take many of those cars, especially from a roll.

Get one that is heavily modified, and perhaps not, but even on a mildly modded one, you will stand a good chance at handing it to them. Even a c5 vette will go down to a turbo cb7.

I speak from experience.

a C5 stop playing!! i would even dream of trying to take one of those in my cb. lol. but hey. if i could i wouldnt mind it at all.

how much power are you running right now chess?

who would you recommend for a chipped ECU? what ECU would you think is best for an application like mine?