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supercharged f22b with xterra charger

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    supercharged f22b with xterra charger

    update.
    returned f22b and bought a h22a4 core. the head is good on this h22 and has all the accesories . i'm going through the stock a6 block and building a hybrid.

    i need to get a p13, possibly more

    so hello everyone so heres what the plan is . i bought a core f22b complete (200$) for a transplant for my 91 wagon. i'm going to go throught the engine in a couple weeks, but i have a supercharger off of a nissan xterra and can make it fit quite easilly but initially i will just get the f22b in there and running

    the pt6 ecu in my car i'm gonna ditch and move to the p14 but my question is? wll the f22b be making the 160 hp if i put the ecu from the prelude in it. it should it doen't know it's in a accord. yes i will wire the knock sensor

    and secondly will the p14 start setting codes when i put some boost though it, were only talking 6-7 pounds with an intercooler?


    as for injectors i'm running a set from a
    2002 jeep liberty, they are close in size to f22aX but they have very small orfices to atomize fuel better than needle and seat design. they run 42-55psi in stock form
    heres an idea of what else i'm running
    -aem fuel rail
    -aem fuel reg
    -header
    -ext coil
    -intake
    -air fuel meter ( i like to see whats happenning, had leaning out trouble before)

    i'm leaving the trans from the wagon in, just gonnna rebuild it first.
    Last edited by cb9wagon; 11-05-2008, 10:37 AM. Reason: updating
    96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar
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    i would like to see if it works and waht kind of power you are making.


    Sold too: Grumpys93, '93CB7Ex, Bunta, prodh22accord, SSMAccord, fleetw00d

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      supercharger picture

      me too i have some time this coming winter to rebuild the f22b. the charger has a plenum off of the base of it that i built. i had it on a chevy 1/2 ton. it was too small for the 4.3l v6 but sure sounded awsome. almost like a cat tied to the fan belt. the charger was a recalled unit, only for noise in the transfer gears (or whatever there called)no other real concern. i'm a little worried i'm gonna have ecu issues with minimal boost
      Last edited by cb9wagon; 06-01-2009, 09:45 AM.
      96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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        #4
        i found a p13 ecu for the conversion, anyone have any idea how the ecu reacts under boost application? ie trouble codes, timing retard?
        96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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          #5
          Originally posted by cb9wagon View Post
          i found a p13 ecu for the conversion, anyone have any idea how the ecu reacts under boost application? ie trouble codes, timing retard?
          how does the p13 react under boost? it doesn't react, you will blow the motor.
          you should look into a chipped ECU and Crome or Hondata to tune it or other engine management options.
          You will also need bigger injectors. I don't see the need for aftermarket fuel rail and regulator, the stock unit should work well.

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            #6
            What about the H22A supercharger... it's a direct fit, some dude in Canada hooked one up to his H23A


            Originally posted by lordoja
            im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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              Originally posted by rexload View Post
              how does the p13 react under boost? it doesn't react, you will blow the motor.
              you should look into a chipped ECU and Crome or Hondata to tune it or other engine management options.
              You will also need bigger injectors. I don't see the need for aftermarket fuel rail and regulator, the stock unit should work well.
              what will happen to cause the blow up? lean out? to much timing? pls be specific

              as i said in the first post i have better injectors, the fuel rail and reg is to accomadate a different style of injector ( psi range is different) and the new injectors will be able to flood this thing out at anything under 10 psi and i'm not even thinking about 10 i looking for 6-7.

              i've done chargers on honda engines before and small amounts of boost . no codes, stock ecu and small changes to the fuel system ie: reg and injectors.
              aftermakert stuff never works 100% especially stuff that isn't mass produced. even multimillion dollar companys programming via obd2 programmers or flashing the ecu with a kit from your autoparts suppliers.emmissions control equipment doen't work right after and there goes aircare(emmisions testing required to insure) they always are not as good as stock and i'm not looking top hp, i need reliability.I think the kit mentioned above was on a 97 integra can't remember if it was vtec or not. it was a 8 or 9 pound system with a aftercooler, not intercooler. still running after 4 -5 years.
              96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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                Originally posted by gloryaccordy View Post
                What about the H22A supercharger... it's a direct fit, some dude in Canada hooked one up to his H23A


                if your talking about the jackson kit, that accually a similar one that i installed on another 99 integra gs. i 've found the reliability of them isn't great and the cost.
                96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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                  i've seen something like this on honda tuning, there was actually a link on here for it somewhere, his was an f22a, and i believe it did throw a CEL, http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1649973&page=1

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cb9wagon View Post
                    what will happen to cause the blow up? lean out? to much timing? pls be specific

                    as i said in the first post i have better injectors, the fuel rail and reg is to accomadate a different style of injector ( psi range is different) and the new injectors will be able to flood this thing out at anything under 10 psi and i'm not even thinking about 10 i looking for 6-7.

                    i've done chargers on honda engines before and small amounts of boost . no codes, stock ecu and small changes to the fuel system ie: reg and injectors.
                    aftermakert stuff never works 100% especially stuff that isn't mass produced. even multimillion dollar companys programming via obd2 programmers or flashing the ecu with a kit from your autoparts suppliers.emmissions control equipment doen't work right after and there goes aircare(emmisions testing required to insure) they always are not as good as stock and i'm not looking top hp, i need reliability.I think the kit mentioned above was on a 97 integra can't remember if it was vtec or not. it was a 8 or 9 pound system with a aftercooler, not intercooler. still running after 4 -5 years.

                    Well timing is not a big problem on low boost, but you need to be able to fine tune your fuel. If you just run big injectors and more fuel pressure, I don't really understand how you would tune your idle or partial throttle. Wouldn't it be super rich at idle, possibly not even idle at all? Once you go into closed loop and the ECU gets a signal from the O2 sensor, it will lean it out but it can only do it to a certain point. And how are you planning on tuning wide-open-throttle, by just altering the fuel pressure? I guess it would be doable with low boost, but the car will run a lot better with a chipped ECU or an AFC.

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                      Originally posted by rexload View Post
                      . And how are you planning on tuning wide-open-throttle, by just altering the fuel pressure? I guess it would be doable with low boost, but the car will run a lot better with a chipped ECU or an AFC.
                      totally agree. i 'm wondering if it will work ok for drivabilty, i know performance would be down. the injector size too will be some thing to fine tune. the fuel rail and reg. give me ability to tune it a little better and keeps options open on different injectors, i have a snap on vantage that gives me a pretty good idea whats happening.
                      96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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                        #12
                        still waiting for the h22a core to arrive..... i'm going crazy its supposed to be here any minute
                        96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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                          #13
                          it's here!!!

                          its here and its a 92 h22a and is it ever clean!

                          front engine mount is broken i'm thinking of making honey out of horse shit and tapping the holes out that are damaged, extract a bolt... some bs but maybe worth it. need a new head gasket now. i 'll modify the post tonight with some pics

                          guess it wasn't just a core afterall
                          96 Accord SiR driveline installed. CF2 donar

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