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Anyone using Phearable.net's basemaps?

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    Anyone using Phearable.net's basemaps?

    anyone running these basemaps? they ship you an ecu prechipped after you give them motor info, you can specify rev limiters, two step, vtec crossover, mods, then they burn you a chip and send your ecu out. its like a 175 bucks.

    anyone got any numbers for a stockish/bolt-on H22a? i was gonna run a Logic motorsports tri-y, intake, 2.5'' exhaust/two resonators w/muffler, no cat. (i dont have to DEQ)

    i was initially going to just buy s300 for my p13, but i soon found out that the p13 isnt S300 compatable...

    so the phearable.net basemaps may be a cost effective solution to my tuning needs. Since im just running minor stuff, i wasnt sure if i really needed S300 and a full tune. i would like two step and the other cool features, but if i can get by on the basemap by phearable, i would do so until i got some cams/valvetrain/port work.

    and secondly, anyone know a good 2 step rpm setting for a bolt on H22a? not anything extreme, just a nice conservative launch to try to keep up with my subie friends from a dig.

    so any input?
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    I am running one on my F20 its a really solid map I got my 2 step at 4 and it does pretty good. Haven't had any problems from it and Ive been running it for a couple months now.

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      #3
      They have a good reputation, but honestly... you can get a P28 ECU for $50 or less, a chipping kit for $20, and you can find basemaps for free online (or someone here could share their own with you.) A basemap really isn't meant to be driven on. It's meant to get the car running so it can be properly tuned.






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        Originally posted by deevergote View Post
        They have a good reputation, but honestly... you can get a P28 ECU for $50 or less, a chipping kit for $20, and you can find basemaps for free online (or someone here could share their own with you.) A basemap really isn't meant to be driven on. It's meant to get the car running so it can be properly tuned.
        thats the downside to those ecus. you cant re program them once they are burned, so ill probably do S300, but i was curious as to whether or not people made power reliably on these phearable.net tunes.

        anyone else use 2 step?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mt.HOODrat View Post
          thats the downside to those ecus. you cant re program them once they are burned, so ill probably do S300, but i was curious as to whether or not people made power reliably on these phearable.net tunes.

          anyone else use 2 step?
          Sure you can reprogram them...... it is a basic chipped OBD1 ECU with an EEPROM chip installed. These chips can be removed and anyone with tuning software and a chip burner can tune them. Crome, Neptune and eCtune will all work on a Phearable chipped ECU.

          IMO Hondcrapa is not worth it. Neptune RTP would be the best option if you are tuning yourself. If you are not tuning this yourself you should talk to the person tuning your car.... and let them decide what software to run.
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            #6
            Most chips can be rewritten.
            If you want to get into ECU programming, I STRONGLY suggest you learn more about it. You clearly have a limited understanding, and that can lead to a lot of wasted money, and possibly some serious engine damage.



            You can use older free versions of Crome and Uberdata to do most tuning. A basic mild street tune doesn't need more than those programs offer. With a wideband o2 sensor, a datalogger like the Moates Hulog, a laptop, a free datalogging program (like Freelog), a chip burner, and a little bit of knowledge, you can tune your own ECU. It would cost you about $200 (not including the laptop, which doesn't have to be very powerful).






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              Originally posted by deevergote View Post
              Most chips can be rewritten.
              If you want to get into ECU programming, I STRONGLY suggest you learn more about it. You clearly have a limited understanding, and that can lead to a lot of wasted money, and possibly some serious engine damage.



              You can use older free versions of Crome and Uberdata to do most tuning. A basic mild street tune doesn't need more than those programs offer. With a wideband o2 sensor, a datalogger like the Moates Hulog, a laptop, a free datalogging program (like Freelog), a chip burner, and a little bit of knowledge, you can tune your own ECU. It would cost you about $200 (not including the laptop, which doesn't have to be very powerful).
              i dont really ever plan to tune my own cars, thats a can of worms i dont really want to open. ive sometimes thought about taking a fuel injection class to learn the basics, but ive been trying to consolidate my skillset and focus on my career and calling, machining. ill leave the tuning to the pros who will dyno my car. someday if i have more free time, i might dabble.

              i believe S300 it is.

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                #8
                Your best bet is to find a tuner that's familiar with the H22A, and see what he would prefer to use. A good tuner can use pretty much any tuning software/hardware out there... but they all have their preferences, and you'll get the best results by using what they know best. Hondata is popular and well-supported, so it's possible that a tuner might say to go that route anyway. But there are some tuners that DESPISE Hondata. Best to find a tuner and get the tuning software/hardware to suit the tuner, rather than arbitrarily buying a tuning package and then finding (or forcing) a tuner to use it.

                Also, a basic tune on a lightly modified engine is fairly idiot-proof. You COULD learn by trial and error if you wanted to give it a go yourself. Judging by the way you type, I feel it's safe to assume you're a good deal more intelligent (and careful) than a number of people I've known on this site to successfully learn to tune their own ECU. As long as you're not boosted or running extremely high compression, you'd really have to try hard to do serious damage.






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