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    #16
    Originally posted by evil_demon_01 View Post
    Yep, I havn't used Crome before though.
    If it's the same as Hondata it should have a place to enter timing retard and fuel enrichment values next to the "launch control enable checkbox"

    Those values are dependant on the engine setup.
    Do you have an EGT gauge?
    i dont have one yet but do plan on getting one soon....

    Originally posted by deevergote View Post
    Launch control is usually done by cutting fuel (like my setup) or spark. Anti-lag is a severe spark retard (in the simplest form, there are other more complicated setups that I'm still researching.)

    If you're just looking to spool as you're launching, you don't really need anti-lag. Anti-lag is used more on road or rally racing, to keep the turbo spooled between shifts (some drivers used a left foot braking technique to accomplish the same thing.)
    they way you described that deev sounds like no lift shift feature where it retards the timing between shifts to keep the turbo spooled.... but im still learning everything so any new info i can learn im happy and open to learn it
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      #17
      Originally posted by T04ECB7 View Post
      they way you described that deev sounds like no lift shift feature where it retards the timing between shifts to keep the turbo spooled.... but im still learning everything so any new info i can learn im happy and open to learn it
      Crome has the option for full throttle shift, though I'm pretty sure its just a lower set revlimiter and is activated by the clutch.
      Antilag requires full throttle in order to maintain the turbo spooling while retarding the timing at the same time.


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        #18
        i can build 15psi of boost at the line with the way i set up the launch control on crome in my tune. it has to be a vtec motor for it to work tho, and the launch rpm has to be higher then the vtec engagement point. i can control the amount of boost built by changing the amount of fuel that is dumping when its in the cells used by the LC. you can use the default setting by just enabling LC in crome you can build a small amount of boost, on a smaller turbo. It didnt really do anything for me, since i have a pretty big turbo with a .82 hotside, but with the way i have it set up now, 12-15psi at 6K at the line works for me

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          #19
          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
          Launch control is usually done by cutting fuel (like my setup) or spark. Anti-lag is a severe spark retard (in the simplest form, there are other more complicated setups that I'm still researching.)

          If you're just looking to spool as you're launching, you don't really need anti-lag. Anti-lag is used more on road or rally racing, to keep the turbo spooled between shifts (some drivers used a left foot braking technique to accomplish the same thing.)
          you will only build a pound or two without anti-lag. its used for drag racing as well for the same concept but for getting boost off the line.

          If you want a system that has anti-lag, move to a software like Neptune RTP. Its not all that bad on the turbo as long as you have the problem feed and drain line.
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            #20
            Crome DOES have anti lag.

            Anti-lag usualy consist of retarded timing and extra fuel.
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              #21
              Originally posted by dbsharp View Post
              Crome DOES have anti lag.

              Anti-lag usualy consist of retarded timing and extra fuel.
              it is not true anti-lag.
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                #22
                Another program that has Anti lag is ''eCtune" its a really great program. Been using it on both my cb's for some time. As stated before its not very practical unless you have slicks, jus wheel spin, especialy wit our torquey engines. Mine builds 6psi @ 4000rpm, witch is perfect for my setup . might have to change it @ the track. dont know yet. also its a non vtec, if it helps

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                  #23
                  You can do it.

                  You can do a ghetto version of antilag in crome.

                  If you are interested here is how you do it.

                  1.)go in and set up vtec to only engage above 5 mph.

                  2.) in your low cam ignition table drop your wot and near wot ignition timing above vtec engagement to as restarted as it will go (I think +6 degree is as far as it will go.)

                  on this step I also leave the cells right after vtec engagement at a normal ignition as with 4 cell calculations you will be reading from them too.

                  3.) richen the fuel for the low cam and above vtec section until you are happy with the results.

                  Some adjustment of the ignition may be necessary, but I have not had to do it. (I should also note that I have only done this on one car, it did work, but not as well as a more sophisticated anti lag.)

                  The idea is that you will not be in vtec below 5 mph regardless of what rpm you are at, this means that while at a stand still you can have the extremely retarded timing and rich fuel mixture needed for anti lag, and as soon as you hit 5 mph you will be on your normal high cam fuel and ignition.

                  So crome has it... just not in a nice way

                  EDIT: I have to put this plug out there since ectune was mentioned, neptune has antilag, and I love it, great program and even better customer service.
                  Last edited by Ghetto_CB7; 01-14-2011, 07:33 PM.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ghetto_CB7 View Post

                    EDIT: I have to put this plug out there since ectune was mentioned, neptune has antilag, and I love it, great program and even better customer service.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by WiKKeDV16 View Post
                      its only really benefitial for cars with turbos .70ar backside or better.. a 14b'd/16g/small t3 turbo car.. will only inherit lots of wheel spin.. especially if their still NON LSD..


                      sure as fuck is fun though.. it is dangerous..(burning valves/turbo abuse/piston ring wear etc..
                      what else is new.

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                        #26
                        Btw have you guys figured out how to do boost by gear yet to maximize the traction issues yet?

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                          #27
                          yea... in this weather before I can build 3psi I'm spinning the tires off in 1st. In the summer Ill hook every gear.
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