Tuning Solutions, Idea and Thoughts

[Sarthos]

I read what moates had to say about the Ostrich 2.0 (couldn't find the 1.0 on their site?) and it's not really clear what it is. It says it does pseudo-datalogging. I'm just confused as to why it's needed, why not just a chip burner?

Edit: Oh, it allows you to change the tuning in real time before actually burning your eprom? It sounds like all it does is saves a little bit of time?

[evil_demon_01]

I read what moates had to say about the Ostrich 2.0 (couldn't find the 1.0 on their site?) and it's not really clear what it is. It says it does pseudo-datalogging. I'm just confused as to why it's needed, why not just a chip burner?

Edit: Oh, it allows you to change the tuning in real time before actually burning your eprom? It sounds like all it does is saves a little bit of time?

Correct, Its a chip emulator
Simply put, it replaces the "chip" in the ECU socket and allows you to change the tune in real time.
Then you can save that tune and burn it to a chip.

[Sarthos]

Okay, so it's not a necessity, just really helpful for doing things in a timely manner.

[Ghetto_CB7]

Crome Free

An emulator is not required for crome, however the only time I would say it is not extremely helpfull, is with crome free.

And, Neptune and Ectune REQUIRE an emulator.

Just so you know...

I could not imagine tuning without one, It would suck; however it is possible.

[blazenem]

which ones are begginer friendly. i been on pgmfi reading alot and cant decided which one to go with, too many options lol

edit: i never tuned before, i think i have a grasp of the concept just looking to teach my self more with the help of my fellow cb7 tuners.

[Ghetto_CB7]

Crome Free

I learned on crome free.

And am now upgrading to Neptune. I believe that it is worth the experience on the free system.

It is difficult for me to tell you what to do.

Before you make your decision you should know that an emulator is only $75 more then the burn2 chip burner. So if you are not planning on tuning more then one car, I would still recommend just getting the emulator.

If you are going to do more then one car, then the chip burner is the way to go (assuming you only get one or the other), but it is a pain, and even more difficult to learn.

If you are planning on upgrading from crome to either neptune or ectune within a fairly short period of time, I would HIGHLY recommend that you save up money for the demon board.

Thankfully HRTuning will buy your old emulator / datalogger if you are upgrading to neptune, but I still lost like $70 because I didn't go straight to the demon.

It is too bad I didn't know you were doing this earlier, or I would have sold you my ostrich and hulog, with cables for $150. Instead I sold them back to moats / HRTuning for that price

Either way you go, don't be shy to ask questions. I am still learning too.

Looking like an idiot on the internet when you start tuning is a lot better then blowing up your engine!


Regards, and good luck!

[slostjoe]

My fav other than not being able to change Rev limit is

AEM FIC

[Ghetto_CB7]

Aem Fic

I believe the FIC would benefit the non honda people more then those of us here.

There is nothing that unit can do, that crome free can't do.

If you go a step further and go with ectune, or neptune then the list of features is HUGE for the same price as the FIC.

All the FIC allows is for you to adjust ignition and fuel tables.

Crome free offers idle contorl, iat correction, ect corection, individual cylander trim, tip in, gear adjustment, v-tec engagement point, and a ton of other features.

The others just add features from there.