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    Haltech Plug and Play development thread

    Please note, this is my thread about what we are doing at Haltech, not an official Haltech thread, so I don't stand to gain anything from this or sales of this product when it is finished. That being said.
    DISREGARD WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE E6X, AS WE ARE USING AN E8 NOW.
    As some of you know, I started working for Haltech about a month and a half ago, and I love my job. Even more so now that we are developing a plug and play standalone system for m/t obd1 hondas such as our own.
    We have not done much yet apart from getting the pinouts for a p06 (Im currently running a chipped p06 with crome pro) and the wiring diagram for the e6x and for the accord.
    http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ingdiagram.gif
    http://haltech.com/downloads/e6x_wiring_diagram.pdf
    I started matching up everything so that we could use a jumper harness to connect the factory wiring harness to the e6x.
    That's honestly about as far as we have gotten so far, as we are an office of 3, and we do all distribution, tech support, etc from this office here in Lexington.
    Now, some random tidbits about all of this.
    My car does not have a/c so I am not sure if this will allow people to retain usage of their a/c.
    The e6x does not like sensors apart from gm style sensors, so the air temp and coolant temp sensors might have to be changed. However, we sell those too, and offer them in metric and sae sizes as well, and we are hoping the metric sizes fit without any sort of modification. If not, they will require some sort of tapping to make them fit. Development is too early to either confirm or deny this currently.
    The e6x does not have the calibration for the stock honda map sensor(1.8 bar or so) however, it has an internal 2.5 bar map sesnor built in, so this isn't really much of an issue. A 2 bar map sensor is good up to 22 psi, which is more than sufficient for a stock block turbo guy. The software does work with 1, 2, 3, 2.5int, 5, and 7 bar map sensors however, so if you ever plan on running more boost than that, it is easy to configure and set up.
    As for the e6x, it supports some cool features like anti-lag, vtec, boost control, nitrous switch, shift light, and lots of other stuff. The e6x software is free for download on the haltech website, so feel free to mess around with it.
    Haltech understands that it is hard to compete with cheap and free programs like crome and uberdata, etc, so we are hoping to keep the price relatively low. Hopefully retail will be around $999 but since things are so early in development, that is defnitely up in the air still. For a full plug and play standalone, that is a very good price, and the haltech units are very high quality, so I believe this will be a good deal. The e6x does not require expensive upgrades, doesnt require chips to be burnt, and supports datalogging. You can check out specs on it here
    http://haltech.com/e6x.htm
    http://haltech.com/downloads/e6x_spec.pdf


    If you all have any questions, concerns, things you would like to see, comments, etc, please let me know, and I will do my best to answer them.
    Last edited by chessboxer; 05-20-2008, 09:04 PM.
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    #2
    We are almost ready to make the harness now, a little more mapping out was done between various tasks today.
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      #3
      This looks cool!
      I wish I had a cool job like yours! Job at autozone ftl.....
      spin city

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        #4
        Update.
        We have decided to go with the e8 as opposed to the e6x. The e8 pnp unit is much more in line with motec m4 than is the e6x. It will work with stock honda sensors, supports 32x32 resolution, has onboard datalogging, has 4 pwm outputs, 2 aux digital outputs, 3 analogue inputs, 1 digital input, will sequentially run both fuel and ignition, closed loop wideband correction/control, 16000 rpm support, real time programming, and a whole lot of other stuff. The processor used in the Haltech E8 is the same one found in the Motec E8.
        Expected retail of this is to be around 1500, which is considerably less than the motec m4 honda kit. No, it is not cheap, but it is an incredibly high quality piece which I fully believe in and support.
        http://haltech.com/e8.htm
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          #5
          E8 Harness almost completed now.
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            #6
            Got it in the car this afternoon and played around with the trigger settings trying to get consistent timing, but with no luck, as we got busy and things came up, and well, its hard to convince 3 guys to stick around past 6 pm on a friday.
            Monday we will mess around with it some more, and we will hopefully get the timing straightened out and will get it started and going.
            Dang reluctor sensors, wish they had hall effect sensors stock. Oh well, we will get it staightened out, of that much I am certain.
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              #7
              Jesus smiled down upon us from heaven today.
              Car starts, figured out the tooth offset and trigger angle, tooth offset is 19, trigger angle was variable.
              Car idles and purrs like a champion.
              Went to drive it, ha, it did not like being under a load.
              I suppose this is what happens when you attempt to drive in a parking lot on a completely custom n/a base map for a god knows what.
              Tomorrow we will look to tune this on the dyno, compare power levels with what I was making with crome and my p06, and look to start finding other cars with things like vtec and a/c to test this all on.
              I will provide pics and some videos when time allows it and whenever I get to it.
              First haltech powered cb7?
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                #8
                no updates or tuning today unfortunately, we were swamped with business.
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                  #9
                  blah blah blah... excuses i say...


                  Praise The Lowered...

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                    #10
                    Trying to tune today, been a hectic morning.
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                      #11
                      cool...u guys have a R35!



                      keep us posted on that ECU...I might want one for my F20A DOCH

                      by the way you have pm
                      Last edited by lokuputha; 05-22-2008, 11:30 AM.
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                        #12
                        Busy busy busy!
                        No time for tuning at the moment unfortunately.
                        Lookuptha, I'll get back at you shortly good sir.
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                          #13
                          Terrible day/good day.
                          My boost spike issue prevented us from tuning today.
                          Im going externally gated tial 38mm and utilizing a Haltech boost control solenoid controlled by one of the pwm outputs. Hope to have this done and resume tuning within the next week.
                          Ill keep you all updated on the status of the development, although all that is really left is dyno tuning a couple of cars and testing out vtec and a/c control.
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                            #14
                            Car got a quick tune on the e8 tonight, and it pulls really well.
                            Ill post dyno numbers and such once we have finalized everything.
                            Idle is great, as is the boost curve, tq, etc. Car runs really well, and once we get some more goodies installed, ill post some more stuff.
                            If anyone has any questions, comments, or concerns, please post up and I will do my best to answer them.
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                              #15
                              I should finish up the new ic piping tonight on my cb7 and then hopefully bring it back in tomorrow for some additional testing.
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