Engine Ground Wire kit writeup -pics-

[Dirty Harry]

- Lets see this is my first write up...and the kit was not for the purpose of pretty dress up my engine...the purpose of the kit is too ground my engine...
I can see the point of view given by primo and type G because they like to make there engines look pretty..but this was a down n dirty install...for the purpose of seeing what it would do....i have respect for you 2 because primo has the cleanest h22 install...and Type G is all on that polish shit.(G your right it does look like sphagetti and an octupus)..propz
but this was just an install for the newbiez...which i am myself......who ask questions regarding how its installed..does it give gaines??..etc... yeah h22 sparkz i should have made it a liil prettier but thats not my main concern


- zip creature obviously you like pretty pictures better than reading..so ill post another pic for you... look there is a gap between the header and the ground wire... damn i know you dont know me but give me some credit or read what i put on the thread about melting wire. thanks for the 1 for effort


thanks cipher for elaborating on the difference between short circiut and arcing...i know that short circuit means take the path of least resistance..so im guessing arcing means..when the spark jumps but in essence this is really the same thing as short circuit..because its taking the "shorter" route..hence short circuit...but i guess when it jumps from point A to point B its called "arcing"..ill read more on it laterz...
i hope this thread helpz some of you guyz out who have questions..on if there was any gain... etc...yeah you can go for more prettier kits..skyz the limitz peepz...out.

No, shorting is completely different from arcing. Arcing is just a spark jumping between 2 conductive points. I already gave an example of shorting. Air is very high in electrical resistance of course... in order for an arc to occur a significant amount of tension needs to be present in order to ionize the air. If you really need me to spell it out, look AGAIN at my previous example of connecting one of the ground wires to the positive terminal. By doing this you are completely bypassing the circuitry in the entire car, and causing electricity to "flow" directly from one terminal to the other. You should read up on electrical theory...

To those who know, I said "flow" because if you dig down to the real technical details, it really doesn't. Make no sense? Read up... and I don't mean just amperes, voltage and such....that's extremely basic.

[93EXaesthetic]

No, shorting is completely different from arcing. Arcing is just a spark jumping between 2 conductive points. I already gave an example of shorting. Air is very high in electrical resistance of course... in order for an arc to occur a significant amount of tension needs to be present in order to ionize the air. If you really need me to spell it out, look AGAIN at my previous example of connecting one of the ground wires to the positive terminal. By doing this you are completely bypassing the circuitry in the entire car, and causing electricity to "flow" directly from one terminal to the other. You should read up on electrical theory...

To those who know, I said "flow" because if you dig down to the real technical details, it really doesn't. Make no sense? Read up... and I don't mean just amperes, voltage and such....that's extremely basic.

hmm i remember reading about ciruit boards and when a spark jumps from one track to another they call this short circuiting....

but you do make a valid point when you say the air has a lot of resistance..so the spark jumping does not follow the rule of "path of least reasistance"

[TypeG]

yo man, i wasn't tryin to bag on your write up, just a little hummor. later.

[Dirty Harry]

hmm i remember reading about ciruit boards and when a spark jumps from one track to another they call this short circuiting....

but you do make a valid point when you say the air has a lot of resistance..so the spark jumping does not follow the rule of "path of least reasistance"

As far as traces on a PCB being too close/having too much voltage run through them and then causing arcs, this could be considered shorting (at least in some cases).

It's obvious you don't understand it nearly enough... shorting is as simple a concept as, say, basic laws of physics. Seriously, read up... it'll do you alot of good.

[HondaGuy1212]

looks good man i would put that on my car

[93EXaesthetic]

yo man, i wasn't tryin to bag on your write up, just a little hummor. later.

hahaha...i need some vagina mang.. dont mind me..
im the king of crackn jokes tho..i can take jokes...haha...got jokes??... i was raised on that shit....

[lxmodcar]

nice write up....I was wondering if the f22 would see any improvements from using a grounding kit. Now if I can deal with all those wires in the engine bay I may look into getting some...lol

[westsideaccord]

>92_accord_f20a:Are you fo real, you seriously look twelve dude! JKS! Are you holdin 6 cdn 100 dolla bills? I hope you use a rubber! LOL

Grounding is good I hate stock grounds, so small and brittle I will make my own ground kit when I move my battery to the trunk!

[zipcreature]

- zip creature obviously you like pretty pictures better than reading..so ill post another pic for you... look there is a gap between the header and the ground wire... damn i know you dont know me but give me some credit or read what i put on the thread about melting wire. thanks for the 1 for effort

Not a problem, thanks for the extra pic!
If you have enough wire, you could try running the 'offending' wire down along the lower radiator support, or something to not put it that close to the header (heat will still radiate and melt those wires, plus the eninge moves during driving - rocking back and forth).
Also you do not have to ground all the wires to the same point - that is not the part that gives your power. Remember - where does the negative wire from your battery go? It grounds to the chassis I believe.
If you want just ground your parts to the chassis. Also some cars ground the exhaust - but that is really insignificant on our cars.
Peak HP is probably not gained - though the car probably does start a little easier and run smoother and the lights not dim when your system hits, if you have one.

Nice write up. I think your can do better though! I would certainly encourage you to pursue this some more and show us what you are capable of!

PS My name is ZIPCREATURE not Zip Creature, or Zip. Or Zippy. Zipcreature.

- Zipcreature

[blazen_accord]

Any ever done a grouding kit with the battery in the trunk? Do I need to get another battry for the front so I can install this kit? I am planing to have a nice system so maybe 2 battery might be a good thing how would you wire up 2 battery hmmm????

[zipcreature]

Just ground everything to the frame.

- Zipcreature

[Backfire32]

quick question. what kind of metal is the wire?

[sonikaccord]

is this the same as the big 3 upgrade?

[VBaccord24]

DoctorCipher is right. take welding for example. u strike arcs not short circuits. what do u think lightning is? its not a short circuit in mother earth. its an arc between electrons bouncing around during electrical storms, and earth or the ground. just a little something that i know

[RidnLow]

ground

Im pretty sure the kit is nice to have for the grounds to be all legit. I planned on getting the kit myself, but all those wires going all over the place like that just looks sloppy. Every one has there own thoughts