lol i beat the hell outta my car and i am surprised it has lasted this long (171k) lol well i just like to see, if driven the same, a modded engine will last as long as a stock one. and yes everyone probably beats the hell outta there modded engine. can't help it! lol
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Thats the fun in having a modded engine
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Yes it be pointless to not try out your new mods on your engine! But as somebody already said and which is true, if you take care of your car and don't redline it stoplight to stoplight(most of us do live in the reality) then everything should be alright!Originally posted by Makaveli2kComment
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Originally posted by accrdpower
"where the CAI was completely submerged in water and engine was fine."
wtf you trying to blow motors up??
"well for me i put on the fuel rail first"
What mods do you have a fuel rail does nothing...
"for a kid that didn't even know where to place the jack "
Explains why you are talking out your ass about stuff you dont know.
"doing your own work and doing it right is always a plus!"
Yes it is why you should hire someone that knows what there doing
Dynamic racing
Look out for 4 point cb7 strut bars for dohc!!!
Originally posted by deevergoteComment
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Originally posted by accrdpower
Maybe you beat the hell out of your modded motor i dont
Dynamic racing
Look out for 4 point cb7 strut bars for dohc!!!
Originally posted by deevergoteComment
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u got some serious issues and if u keep being an ass then just leave ok dude. people like u that should be banned! lfff anyway, it wasn't me that did the test on the CAI it was some mags, i think HT did one. or maybe even aem. not sure. but it was a test to see if the bypass worked. fuel rail first because it was the first part to come in....fuel rail, fpr, injectors, fuel pump, fuel line.....when i first started messing with cars yes i was clueless, but now after working with hundreds of cars...and not tune-up crap i mean like performance/aftermarket stuff....only worked on 3 cb7's but still. i have a decent amount of experience. ranging from air ride instal to taking apart an engine. to putting a body kit on and molding it, to body dropping cars. i by no means think i know everything or even alot. i know alittle bout most things. the car club i am in requires u to learn to do it yourself (for most things) u don't hire someone else u fool....learn to do it yourself, get some friends that know what they are doing and have them help u out....i take it u r the one that has no idea what is done to his car when someone asks. lol bc u have everyone else do it for u. roflOriginally posted by micksf22accordComment
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wow im a huge noob so dont laugh...actually i welcome you to, but what kind of shit do you do to build an engine block, i know all the components...but what do you do to change it and modd it??92 CB7 *Sold $3300 102K Miles 4 door LX
94 Del Sol *Baught $3300 80K Miles on chasis
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That's actaully a decent question...
To properly build a block, you usually need to get stronger sleeves (Darton makes some of the best) stronger forged rods (there are MANY quality brands) and forged pistons. The pistons can change the compression ratio (higher for NA, and lower for turbo) and the can withstand more abuse without cracking (as stock pistons can do). Strong rods are necessary, especially for high revving motors, so they can handle the extra stress put on them. Honda cylinder walls are decent, but with turbo or a high revving naturally aspirated motor, they need to be reinforced.
Mick, accrdpower... knock it off.
Oh, and to contribute to the initial question... The F22 might be capable of 200hp NA, but it would take a TON of work to do so. The SOHC head isn't suited to high revving. Even with stiffer valve springs and lightweight valves, the design could cause them to bind. Using a DOHC head is much safer. Tuning a single cam is also harder... you can advance the intake and exhaust valves, or you can retard the intake and exhaust valves. What you do to one set, you do to the other. Dual cams allow the intake and exhaust to be tuned seperately, which allows for many more options.
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Originally posted by accrdpower
I hire someone to work on my car.
I truely have no clue what is done to it.
I just work for dynamic racing for show.
I dont even know what sohc means.
I dont really own a cb7.
Dynamic racing
Look out for 4 point cb7 strut bars for dohc!!!
Originally posted by deevergoteComment
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Deev,
I have to really look at the SOHC head, but honestly I don't think one design will bind more than the other (unless the SOHC head has much shorter springs than the DOHC, but they're the same from what I know). Truthfully, two engines are basically the same if they have the same cam profiles, head flow characteristics, and displacement...all the peripherals (manifolds) and electronics are all changeable. So from what I understand, a PnP'd F22 w/11:1 lightweight pistons/rods, a Delta 272 (or 282 if you want) and I/H/E should run neck and neck or even be slightly more powerful than an I/H/E H22. Even if you buy an additional F22 I think the costs will be the same or in the same ballpark, and if anything breaks you have the old F and thousands of F's lying around...
IMO the SOHC/DOHC argument is kinda nill; I mean how much power can be made from cam gears on a DOHC head? When someone *cough*me*cough* can come out with aftermarket VVT cam gears (like the new i-VTEC intake cam gear) then I could see the argument for DOHC...but if the heads flow the same, then other than the additional loss from the rocker arms there really shouldn't be a difference in power with all things equal.
I think with the growth of the CB7 community we'll finally see more people getting into cam swapping. I know when I'm able to I'll def. go for a Delta 272, or a 282 if I get another car, and do some other things. That dude who ran a 15.6@89 w/an F22B1, intake, and bootleg header show the real potential of the F. I just wish our cars were a little lighter and a lot more aerodynamic...then we could really do well on the highways and stuff. But there's definitely a looooooooooooot of potential in the F. Compression and cams plus the whole H22-style block really open up doors for us...
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nicely put^^^^^Comment
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Indeed....Originally posted by LXaccord92Comment
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isn't it cheaper to just get an h22 swap than to change and/or mod every single component of an f22? at least the h was designed for higher performance and further mods wouldn't have to be too crazy, depending on what you're trying to acheive of course, but the f came in a family car, and a minivan, to be driven modestly. yeah you can swap this and that and port here and polish that, but i'd have more piece of mind with just a stock h22, cause it can take it right off the bat.
for me, i probably won't be going to crazy with my h22. cold air, tanabe catback, maybe some pulleys. and prolly call it a day. i'm already pretty pleased with how it pulls, and i love surprising people in their cars, whether i win or lose, cause either way, i'd have hung in better than they thought any old 90 accord would have. also i don't have cash for crazy stuff, and don't know too much or anything, about fuel rails and exhaust manifolds and all that jazz. i'm still learning. so maybe when i get around to learning what all that stuff does. i'd consider it, given the funds. but for now, i'm happy with my CAI that's coming in the mail soon, and my tanabe catback which i was forced to get cause my oem crap is rusted through everywhere. otherwise i'd prolly have kept it stock.
i'm not looking to run 1/4 miles in 11 seconds or race ferraris. just to have some fun against newer "better" cars and show them how proud i am of my racecar on a budget!
and as i have said before, i think the styling on cb's is still nicer and more agressive looking with it's front end and lower profile, than most of the sporty cars that are out there today.....that look like a running shoe that stepped in shit.
when i'm behind all the newer cars at a red light, my eyes are level with their bumper or taillights.....i was next to a for five hundred and the top of my head was at the bottom of it's window sill......they don't make shit this low and cool anymore...everything is all boaty now.
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^^^hmm...
Well obviously the H22 is the easier and cheaper way out most likely, but even with that there's a risk that you're getting a poo-poo engine. If you basically gut and rebuild an F, it's pretty much gonna be built to brand new specs, and when everything is settled it'll make boucoup power. Plus like many people have said it's a lot of fun to go a different route and surprise people...kinda like the first few people to swap H's in our cars. And in any case I like engine building and all-motor speed, even if it's not efficient or cheap...it's just more fun to me.
And I agree on the styling...the CB isn't exactly beautiful, but it's definitely well-proportioned and timeless. I'm dropped damn near 3", so sometimes seeing ahead is a problem. Usually you can look ahead through someone's car, but not so much in the CB. But the low stance makes it a lot of fun to drive, and the low shoulder line really helps with visibility. My mom's Lexus SUV has worse visibility than my car, go figure
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But yeah all-motor F's are really not that bad of an idea. If it wasn't for the H I think a lot more people would be into the F, especially the DOHC ones...
Originally posted by lordojaComment
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Problem with an h22 swap is, where I live, cheapest h22 motor you can get is like 2500-2800 bucks...unless you wanna drive forever away to pick one up at a junkyard miles away with no certain promise that it will work right...
This isn't an open option for poor guy like me, or poor girls even....Comment
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