increasing mpg 101 - lesson 1: back to steelies

[Fearit22]

I figured it would help with gas mileage, but what kind of performance differences did you notice. Did you actually dyno it or anything? I've never heard of anyone claiming any real gain from them.

[SenseiAccord]

MSD IGNITION AND MSD COIL!!!

SINGLE BEST THING you could possibly do to increase gas mileage in my experience. I've used it on multiple cars with excellent results.

If you buy and properly install the above mentioned combination you WILL see results. The system WILL pay for itself before long.

i guess i can agree with this guy. i got the MSD SCI and Blaster SS coil and i can get 32mpg in hawaii... which is more like city driving than hwy. lately ive been getting 29, 30mpg cuz ppl here cant drive so i end up pounding it out of anger most of the time. but i never really measured my MPG before i got the MSD. i have CAI, dc header, magnaflow cat back, ebay test pipe, msd, generic plug wires, plat. plugs and bored out throttle body (64). i also have 15" 5th gen alloys.

oh yea im using API SL cheveron oil with no 'energy conserving' stamp. oil makes a difference too. look on the back of the oil u are using and it should have a small circle that says API Sx <-- which could be SJ, SL, SM, blah blah blah and below that should say if it is energy conserving or energy conserving II... some oils dont have any of that tho. energy conserving give u like 1.4% better MPG and energy conserving II gives u like 2.5% MPG i think by just using that oil. oil makes a difference!

[FishyMan]

hey dude..
what weight do u use? and seriously are u using chevron oil? ive been using castrol gtx, 10w-30 let me in cuz chevron got sale :P ..

if chevron is truly gonna save, then im gonna give it a try.. cheap too !!

i have yet to fix the probs on the accord pass drive axle, new rotors/ pads, and STILL no a/c but u get use to it.

take cares..

[FishyMan]

btw sensei, if u know any place that does a good job, and honest legit let me know about the brake/rotor..

i got axiss pads on the side, just gotta get some rotors.. finding it hard to find time and money to get tools..

[WeDgE]

its basic trig man.. if you have a wheel that is 18" in diameter vs a wheel that is 14" in diameter it takes less force to move the 14" wheel a full rotation than an 18".

Doesn't matter about wheel size...it's outer diameter that makes a difference.

[Dirty Harry]

I've never actually dyno tested a car before and after an MSD install. I will though, next time I set one up.

My ass dyno tells me that on both cars of mine that I ever installed one on, the performance increase is roughly equal to the parasitic drag of the A/C compressor. I know this since after installing it, I started forgetting that the A/C was on... I didn't feel the slowness the car had when the compressor was engaged, before the MSD setup was installed.

EDIT: On one car (AE92 4dr) my pre-MSD gas mileage was 23 MPG consistently. Afterwards, it jumped to 29-30 MPG. This being verified by calculating it every time I got gas. I never calculated it on the other one.

[Fearit22]

I might look into getting a msd setup then sometime in the future. I'm not really sure how hard it is to install, but I'm sure I can figure it out. I could use some help with gas mileage now.

[Dirty Harry]

Let me know when you're ready to put one in. It's not hard...I can tell you what you need to know to make it work.

[SenseiAccord]

hey dude..
what weight do u use? and seriously are u using chevron oil? ive been using castrol gtx, 10w-30 let me in cuz chevron got sale :P ..

if chevron is truly gonna save, then im gonna give it a try.. cheap too !!

i have yet to fix the probs on the accord pass drive axle, new rotors/ pads, and STILL no a/c but u get use to it.

take cares..

actually chevron oil isnt 'energy conserving'. Look on the back of an oil container and it should have a small circle about the size of a penny. inside of the circle should say the API rating and underneath that rating should say 'energy conserving'. sometimes it is blank. if it is blank then u'll get factory MPG. Try look at a quart of synthetic oil. API rating should be like SL or SM... maybe SN and underneath is should say 'energy conserving' or 'energy conserving II'. if it says that then u will get better MPG than factory using that oil.

anyway i use chevron oil API rating SL and no 'energy conserving' stamp. i use 10w-40. lil bit thicker than factory recommendations but since i have like 100k plus miles on my car i figured i would be good on my bearings.

oil 101. higher the number thicker the oil. showroom cars use lighter weights cuz the bearings are new with little to no wear on them. as the car gets older the bearings wear out and get a gap. the thicker oil fills in that gap. anyway lemme kno if u have questions.

[SenseiAccord]

oh yea my a/c is gone too. i got vent visors tho incase i need air when it rains LOL. i dont think im gonna bother fixing it... unless my school will give me free freon.

anyway dont use chevron oil to save gas. it doesnt have the 'energy conserving' stamp. i just use it cuz i have left overs from when costco sold em cheap. seriously... i think walmart has the best deal on oil LOL!

[SenseiAccord]

the circle thing i was talking about on every quart of oil should look something like this. make sure the oil u are using says API and SAE like the pic <-- shiet junk pic... highlight it.

[FishyMan]

AHHAHAHAHA

thanks i guess i'll stick w/ visors too sad to glue.. but oh well..

thanks dude.. ill stick w/ my castrol i bought a case !! :P

[droccAXE29]

Costcos is the shiet!! Wallmart has good prices, what about k-mart?

BTW, my ACs gone too Lates

[SenseiAccord]

another hawaii member i see there! whatchu got in yo car?

anyway i dunno about k-mart. forgot all about that place ever since the walmart in town opened up LOL!

[FishyMan]

ahahhaahhahahaahhaahahha

walmart is cool !! kmart is mostly penzoil and castrol i think they do carry the other syn stuff but expensive..

just wait bi weekly sunday sads for checkers.