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    words of wisdom not from me but its very true
    I've been getting a lot of questions about if boosting decreases reliability. So I decided to type this up. Some of us may find this common knowledge, but hopefully the newbs will read this.
    Reliability, can be decreased to an extent. It is not necessarily the turbo that is putting wear on the motor, rather it is the amount of power that you are gaining from that turbo. Power is generated by the extra heat and pressure built up in each cylinder. With more power, you of course get more heat and more pressure. So yes, to an extent, you are decreasing the reliability of the motor, but the same goes if you made more power with a naturally aspirated setup. The key answer to decreased reliability is generating more power than what the stock motor was intended for. Turbo is not the reason why you hear or see people blowing up their motors as soon as they turbocharge their motors. The reason they blow up their motors is because they either:

    1. Get greedy and turn up the boost too high.

    2. They don't keep up with the maintenance the way that any typical turbocharged car should be kept, whether it be turbocharged from the factory or not. (ie. religious oil changes, using Synthetic motor oil, keeping tabs on coolant levels and oil levels, putting in new spark plugs along with every 2nd or 3rd oil change, etc.)

    3. Most importantly, they don't run a good engine management setup. Most guys are in such a hurry to turbocharge their car, they overlook the most important thing about keeping a turbocharged engine running correctly and reliably. (Consider this very crude analogy:

    Consider a turbokit without engine management, kinda like having just met a beautiful girl to have sex with, but not having a condom Dangerous isn't it?)

    That is pretty much the basics to it all. My bottom line is, whether you are naturally aspirated or turbocharged, reliability ultimately depends on the amount of power you are making, maintenancing, engine management, and the owner of the car. But with proper care, a high power car can last a very long time, maybe even longer than what you intend to keep the car or engine.
    Last edited by h22sparkle; 08-08-2005, 05:50 PM.

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    I personally get a kick out of it when I read swaps being done and the swapped engine has no maintenance done to it because people think just because it came from Japan and typically has 30-35K miles on it, it MUST be fine. Rubber/seals deteriorate and can be damaged in shipping, etc or dry rot. Later you find out the timing belt snapped, oil leaks occurred, overheating, etc because everything was rushed and a good looking over/replacing all necessary components job was not done. You can't modify an engine that is not in good form. Any athlete to get better first needs to get in good form to be able to take the punishment that comes when you push yourself to the limits to become better or the best.
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      #3
      Originally posted by h22sparkle
      Consider a turbokit without engine management, kinda like having just met a beautiful girl to have sex with, but not having a condom Dangerous isn't it?)
      thats the fun part..........raw dawg

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        #4
        ^^^lol^^^

        anyways, i agree sparkle. And alot of it depends on the owner. If you've got a lead foot and like to rev your engine and run it hard then expect shit to happen whether its n/a or boosted. I do love it how ppl think because its boosted it isn't reliable when i could name about 5 n/a ppl who have blown their engines right now...some more than just one.

        Basically look at it like this, once you start modifying your car and driving it hard no matter the motor or the setup then reliability decreases so prepare for it.
        Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

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          #5
          lol. agreed to all statements made. if u don't belive these statements made u can just talk to one of my friends who was dumb enough to not listen to me and had some shop instal a turbo on his d16y5. i knew it was fishy caue they only wanted to charge him 400 for everything. he called me up saying his car was running shity. i took a look at it and all the company did was bolt on a tdo4 on a cheap manifold and ran oil lines to it. then did really shity as job on piping off turbo to fmic to tb. no fuel mangement was done and it was on stock injectors. his car wasn't running right cause he was only running on 3 cylinders. smoke coming out everywhere.

          slaped him in the back of the head, and told him he didn't listen to a damn thing i told him about turboing a car.

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            #6
            this should be a sticky
            my 91 cb7
            Originally posted by 4doorfury
            I swear, if I hit a raccoon I'll just keep pushing him, there's no way he's going to fit underneath the car

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              #7
              Originally posted by Backfire32
              lol. agreed to all statements made. if u don't belive these statements made u can just talk to one of my friends who was dumb enough to not listen to me and had some shop instal a turbo on his d16y5. i knew it was fishy caue they only wanted to charge him 400 for everything. he called me up saying his car was running shity. i took a look at it and all the company did was bolt on a tdo4 on a cheap manifold and ran oil lines to it. then did really shity as job on piping off turbo to fmic to tb. no fuel mangement was done and it was on stock injectors. his car wasn't running right cause he was only running on 3 cylinders. smoke coming out everywhere.

              slaped him in the back of the head, and told him he didn't listen to a damn thing i told him about turboing a car.
              That there is great....lesson learned!
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                Originally posted by Backfire32
                lol. agreed to all statements made. if u don't belive these statements made u can just talk to one of my friends who was dumb enough to not listen to me and had some shop instal a turbo on his d16y5. i knew it was fishy caue they only wanted to charge him 400 for everything. he called me up saying his car was running shity. i took a look at it and all the company did was bolt on a tdo4 on a cheap manifold and ran oil lines to it. then did really shity as job on piping off turbo to fmic to tb. no fuel mangement was done and it was on stock injectors. his car wasn't running right cause he was only running on 3 cylinders. smoke coming out everywhere.

                slaped him in the back of the head, and told him he didn't listen to a damn thing i told him about turboing a car.
                lol
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