short ram intake vs cold air intake

[zipcreature]

Comparing my AEM CAI to the stock box with the bottom cut out, and the stock filter, then compate that again to a short ram intake; The CAI def. makes me climb revs (gain speed faster) than the stock box. Especially in 3-4 gears above 3,800rpm!
Short air 'feels more torquier' and, honestly, sounds better. My AEM CAI give a "flapping/loose piece of paper" sound at high, 4,000rpms. Which I think sucks. But - More power so I do not complain.

Sport Compact Car, or Super Street (not sure) ran a test with the Acura NSX (sweeeet) with a CAI to show how a bypass valve would work in the event of someone, unlikely, flooring the motor while the filter was COMPLEATLY sumerged.
The NSX did not even suck the water up to the bypass valve.

Something to think about when people suggest hydro-lock as a reason to not go CAI.
As far a daily driving goes: EVERY SINGLE DAY i want every ouce of performace i can get within reason from my car. For me, this meant CAI always!!

WOOT WOOT! My $.02

[starchland]

Im sure the difference between CAI vs. short ram is very minimal. For me i chose short ram because i didnt want to be cutting away metal to make room for the cai pipe and it rust on me and sucking up water.

[N1ghtM0nkey]

I run a CAI with the bumper light removed, the air dosn't get any more fresh than this:



It does rain a lot here, and I'm sure the filter is going to get dirty as hell...but thats why God gave us AEM and eBay filters. Didn't feel much seat of the pants power difference going from SRI to CAI, and no sound difference...power didn't go up or down. If it did go up, it was only a few whp and not very noticeable.

Here's why I'm not worried about hydro-locking my engine: the fender well is pretty much entirely sealed off from the outside besides where my bumper light is taken out. I don't know if it's like this on Accords too, but I would assume so.

Also, one last thing. You may not notice the advantage or power increase your intake gives you, but it will definately make a much bigger difference / overall impact when you actually modify the engine more or adjust the ECU on a dyno or with a wide band...then you'll realize some real results.

There's my rant for the day.

[areannecl]

i truly learned alot here, thanks... I'm going for the nice sounding one so short ram here I come...hehheee

[Accordlx]

Short Ram Suck warm air but air go into engine faster
Cold Air mean the engine gota work harder to suck in the air cuz of the long pipe

[SMseagren83]

wow...how many times has this been covered! go to the AEM site...click on the tabs for products for ur car/ or the 5th gen accrd....and look at intakes offered! then click the little dyno graphs and compare! CAI>shortram

[cb7-R]

Short ram +velocity stack owns both all day long

[Shadow1]

yeah sure yall say that the short ram sucks hot air from around the engine. but hav u actually used one? like one from Injen? i had a short ram from Injen and i found it better than a cold air. dusted a '93 cb7 wit full exhaust, CAI, 2in drop, and port and polish job. spanked him from a dead stop so dont sleep on Injen

[Gotz Cb7]

ehh, when the car's semi-cool, runs great. You can feel the difference from the Stock airbox, to the short-ram. But once the car gets warm, whether or not that filter's away from the engine or not, if it's under the hood (90 degree weather, sun beatin' on the hood), that short-ram's gonna suck in more hot air than your intake would with the stock airbox.

In the process of goin' cold-air as I type this!

[KeeleDesign]

okay this really is a endless thread starter isn't it.

first: their is no way to test the difference between a cold air intake (CAI) vs short ram (SR) on a dyno.
It has been tried but the positioning of the cars with the hoods open and a fan blowing gives the same results.

second. It has been proven on track times that a high reving engine such as an H22 performs better and faster, thus causing either more HP or TQ with a SR .

Case in point the shorter the less the motor has to struggle to pull in air. Thus you also get ITB's (individual throttle boddies) These work better than both the others.


I found on my h22 i did have more low end torque on my h22 with the CAI. this is with a high compression motor with advanced timing.
From my butt dyno, i did have a much better top end with the SR.The shorter you can make your intake the better the top end will be. the longer it is, the better torque you will have.

Any intake will work, but i highly recomend a name brand that did their own dyno testing.

[F20A CB7]

Short Ram Suck warm air but air go into engine faster
Cold Air mean the engine gota work harder to suck in the air cuz of the long pipe

Period!

[foamypirate]

Period!

No...No, not really.

There is a lot more to it than "the engine has to suck harder."

If people would take a moment to learn a little about how things really work, it would go a LONG way.

[F20A CB7]

No...No, not really.

There is a lot more to it than "the engine has to suck harder."

If people would take a moment to learn a little about how things really work, it would go a LONG way.

Well teacher, teach us then.

[foamypirate]

Well teacher, teach us then.

Let me just find my spoon so I can feed everyone...

If you can't be bothered to do the work for yourself, is it really so important?

[F20A CB7]

Um ok. ^^^ the way keelskustom put it makes a lot of sense.