Which header is better the DC sport or the Hedman Chikara Powerplus?
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Originally posted by frootloops View PostIf everyone had the money we'd all be running a Bisi header.My cb7
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That's the thing....you don't have the money, so you will buy something cheap that is known to crack, welds snap, etc. And then what? Spend money to get it rewelded or replaced....when you could've saved your money and bought something with great quality, proven to increase power and probably won't only last 6 months. Just because you have the money to afford something sub-par now doesn't mean you should.
I'm not discouraging your purchase, I'm just stating what should be obvious. But I guess it just depends on your goals. If you're looking for power though, I bet you with a header, test pipe, full exhaust and intake you'll be lucky to see 10hp. Why is this? Because I can't remember the magazine, but they had an article where a shop took an RSX, spent several thousand in upgrades....header, exhaust, cams, intake, blah blah and only gained 20hp. Couple THOUSAND dollars and only gained 20hp. So a cheap header with poor flow design isn't going to yield much. Again, not discouraging the purchase...it will sound badass, but that's about all it'll do for youVIP Status.
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Very ture.
To be honest, I chose to not buy an aftermarket header and instead just use the JDM header and downpipe. Compared to the DC I think it is at least as good and only requires mild work to get it to fit. I am not sure if there is even a difference in diameter between JDM and USDM one's, but the DC only makes maybe 1-2 HP more and that is most likely with an already slightly modded engine.
You may even get that improvement if you just heat wrapped you OEM one.
Just a thought.
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Originally posted by 92vig View PostThat's the thing....you don't have the money, so you will buy something cheap that is known to crack, welds snap, etc. And then what? Spend money to get it rewelded or replaced....when you could've saved your money and bought something with great quality, proven to increase power and probably won't only last 6 months. Just because you have the money to afford something sub-par now doesn't mean you should.
I'm not discouraging your purchase, I'm just stating what should be obvious. But I guess it just depends on your goals. If you're looking for power though, I bet you with a header, test pipe, full exhaust and intake you'll be lucky to see 10hp. Why is this? Because I can't remember the magazine, but they had an article where a shop took an RSX, spent several thousand in upgrades....header, exhaust, cams, intake, blah blah and only gained 20hp. Couple THOUSAND dollars and only gained 20hp. So a cheap header with poor flow design isn't going to yield much. Again, not discouraging the purchase...it will sound badass, but that's about all it'll do for you
I agree with you, buying quality at a higher price is sometimes less expensive than buying the cheap crap, and re buying it when it breaks.
Out in California, i really don't have much of a choice when it comes to legal headers, you can get carb legal ones (DC) that suck, or run quality Illegal headers and run the risk of getting caught and possibility getting your car impounded.
California is a dick when it comes to things like this, but i think everyone should get a bisi, or smsp headers!
are the hedmans carb legal? never looked into it.
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I agree yes cheap headers are pretty much crap and worthless. I also agree if I had the money I had the money I would call Bisi up right now and order the header they make. Well guess what I don’t have the money for one of their headers. I also want to say that I don’t think everyone needs a header like what Bismoto make, just to make this clear I am not dissing his header. I am just saying a normal car like most of us drive doesn’t need a header from Bisi. For example a car like HondaFan81’s white project needs a Bisi header, but a car that sees more street than track by a long shot doesn’t. All I ever see when they look at stuff for bolt ons is how much hp. Well there is such thing called torque, and the last time I recalled 4 cylinders do not produce a lot of it. The header that Hedman makes is perfect for torque gains. Their header has stepped primaries and real y-pipes, instead of the usually notched pipe welded to another. Also if you want to get real particular there header (painted not coated) from them cost about 730 dollars. (275ish from summit racing) Also there header is not smog legal. This still doesn’t concern me because I don’t have to have to pass emissions. (In the state of NC any vehicle 15 years or older doesn’t have to pass emissions only safety inspections. Here the link to Hedmans website and summits so yall can see it’s different that a regular generic header. http://www.hedman.com/products/?id=3484&iset=3939&rsku= http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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