What do you think of this setup?

[gloryaccordy]

Everyone swears by those car audio brands...I'm gonna go the semi-budget route and basically make my system from scratch. Here's the plan:
- Alpine CDM-9803, got it, it's grrrreat, but I think the stock speakers are mega-low resistance (like 2ohms maybe?) because they get REALLY loud and clip very early. I imagine the source of that problem is really low resistance.
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Goldwood 4" mids 40W RMS, 70W max, 100-10KHz response. $8 bucks...they don't give a frequency response graph though, and their efficiency is at a suck ass 86dB. Those should be 1000X better than the stockers though, especially if I throw a little cap in there to keep everything under 80-90Hz out.

For the highs, I wanna go with these generic Pyramids. I know, I know, those brands suck...but they have a decent efficiency. I just want something with those easy mounts and efficiency over 90dB, and 4-6ohm resistance for under $25/pr.

In the rear I'm getting rid of the highs and just going for bass/fill, and will dedicate them to fill once I get subs and stuff. I want to get or make a custom adapter plate to put 6.5"s in the 6x9" hole, and once I do that, I'm probably gonna get these Goldwood 6.5ers or these good looking 7" Goldwood mids if they fit the plate. They both have decent efficiencies, and can take more than my headunit can make. The only thing I don't like about them are their resonant frequencies; they're kinda high for making bass that's felt (~57Hz). If you check out the response graph they seem to drop off pretty badly below 100Hz...interesting...

I have a 93 EX, which is why I wanted to get the 4"s...supposedly I can just get a spacer and get 6.5"s all around though, is that true? If so I'm definitely gonna go that route and keep things uniform all around. For the front I'm gonna get these Dayton 3.5KHz crossovers and call it a day.

All and all it will probably be about $100 without the adaptor plates and $130 with them, including shipping and everything. That is a lot better than what I would wind up paying for some premade components, and I imagine these parts are of higher quality than what I would get from a famous brand. What do you think? Do components make a huge difference compared to coaxials? Are there any other routes that will make as much bass and have equal sound quality? I want to go with components so my mids have room to breathe, and so that I can play with the placement of my tweeters more. Is this a good setup for that price?

[Maple50175]

eh its okay i guess.... Get alpine speakers they sound really good so do boston acustic....

[xplode]

bro. just buy some real good 3 or 4 way speakers for the front doors and the rears and you dont need the extra tweeters, dont replace stock paper speakers with paper speakers, save your money, it wont sound any different, trust me, no matter what kind of paper it is, it wont bump.. or even hit like a Polypropolene woofer.

[gloryaccordy]

Originally posted by xplode
bro. just buy some real good 3 or 4 way speakers for the front doors and the rears and you dont need the extra tweeters, dont replace stock paper speakers with paper speakers, save your money, it wont sound any different, trust me, no matter what kind of paper it is, it wont bump.. or even hit like a Polypropolene woofer.

The paper the stock ones use are like printer paper...I'm surprised they make any noise at all. So this would be an upgrade. However, now that I think about it,

1. I have some 6.5's sitting in my house...two pairs of clear ones from some Mission 743's and a pair of glazed over Pyle 'monitor' woofers. They must be super inefficient or 16ohms, because I think they are mega quiet. In any case, if the Mission's 6.5's are 4 ohms I'm going with those all around my car. They bump. I'm gonna check out the crossover setup to see if they were in series (2 woofers per channel)...hopefully they were.
2. The rears aren't TOO bad. I can go semi-nuts on a component set for the front and decide what to do with the back later.

Come to think of it, even if the Missions are 8 ohm, yes, I won't be making as much power, but assuming the head unit is limited only by power, and not voltage or current, it shouldn't really matter. It would be like going from a woofer with a 93dB efficiency to one with a 90dB efficiency(half the power, right?). If it is limited by voltage, which is entirely possible, and most likely the case, I just have to wait. It sucks though, because I know the head unit is capable of making awesome sound....we'll see...

As for 4 ways in the front, I don't know if that's even possible unless you have a 8x10 driver...plus odds are ones gonna blow on one side, and then everything sounds terrible and lopsided.

I'm gonna keep looking and saving if the Missions don't work out.

[tpham]

how much are you willing to pay???? i never really heard of that brand but all i have to say is that you get what you pay for so be carefull....

oh didn't read the bottom part...i suggest just go to any store...say circuit city...and look at their open box displays and find a better set for your price range...

[Legacy Accord]

damn those speakers are basicaly stock dont look at the rms bacause with the headunit 20-25 watts if your lucky, I would suggest saveing up your money and get some decent equipment because in the long run u will not be happy with the sound quality

[gloryaccordy]

I'm gonna do it

I got a multimeter, and the Mission woofers are 5 ohms...so basically they're perfect for now. As for the highs, I'm gonna look for something of higher quality, and get the Dayton crossover+6x9->6.5" adapters for the back. From there I'll save up for my amp, and hopefully everything will sound good. If not I'll just take everything out and get real stuff...

[urbanrunner]

Look i have a 92 accord lx, and i had Infinity 6.5 2-way speakers installed becasue i blew my stock speakers witha new head unit. But i got all 4 installed for less than $200, i then bought a Panasonic that my bro paid $429 (head unit) and after his accident he sold it to me for $50. I then bought a jl audio 10w6v2 which brand new costs $350, but i found it brand new of a site for $50, which is the best deal in the world! I got an ok amp for now a sony, and got a free custom built box.

What i am trying to say is if you look and ask around you can get deals on decent stuff, don't settle for crap!

[Rage237]

Originally posted by urbanrunner
Look i have a 92 accord lx, and i had Infinity 6.5 2-way speakers installed becasue i blew my stock speakers witha new head unit. But i got all 4 installed for less than $200, i then bought a Panasonic that my bro paid $429 (head unit) and after his accident he sold it to me for $50. I then bought a jl audio 10w6v2 which brand new costs $350, but i found it brand new of a site for $50, which is the best deal in the world! I got an ok amp for now a sony, and got a free custom built box.

What i am trying to say is if you look and ask around you can get deals on decent stuff, don't settle for crap!

WORD!!!!

shit man my first system was a stock deck with stock mids and tweets with a 35x4 pyle amp!!! that was some clean sound !!! belive it or not

i now have stock front 4" mids with motarola horns (most of the horn is cut off though) and some older alpine 6x9s in the rear with an older alpine 4ch amp rated at around 45x4, then for subs i have 2 JBL 12" in a custom box and a L.A. Sounds Hermosa 2ch rated at 250x2 briged down to mono at a 2ohm load.. and a planet audio x-over

and i get massive compliments on how it sounds!
my boy has a prelude with all Kicker amps and all M.B. Quart mids and tweets and JL subs (4 10"s), audio control eq's and x-over's and many would say the sound is equal and the SQ is damn close

now i am not saying that no name or low level shit is better...just that if set up right it can sound as good if not better..

if you dont wanna spend alot of money on new equipment yet or ever for that matter goto hawk shops!!!!! pawnshops are the best to get used shit cheap! i got both my ampos for 100 bux!!! my JBL's were 125 for the set with bandpass box.!

i sell audio setups and try to get peps to buy the best but i know how the scene is and that alot of folks cant afford the best..so i pride myself in doing what i can with what you got.. if you want cheap yet good sound let me know!! ill hook you up..

if you want name brand for cheap let me know i can still hook you up..

i just rewired and moved all my amps so i will be getting some pics of it soon.. mind you its not pretty YET!!!
anyhow back to the thread at hand good luck with your setup...and if you want anything let me know...

[gloryaccordy]

Originally posted by Rage237
WORD!!!!

shit man my first system was a stock deck with stock mids and tweets with a 35x4 pyle amp!!! that was some clean sound !!! belive it or not

i now have stock front 4" mids with motarola horns (most of the horn is cut off though) and some older alpine 6x9s in the rear with an older alpine 4ch amp rated at around 45x4, then for subs i have 2 JBL 12" in a custom box and a L.A. Sounds Hermosa 2ch rated at 250x2 briged down to mono at a 2ohm load.. and a planet audio x-over

and i get massive compliments on how it sounds!
my boy has a prelude with all Kicker amps and all M.B. Quart mids and tweets and JL subs (4 10"s), audio control eq's and x-over's and many would say the sound is equal and the SQ is damn close

now i am not saying that no name or low level shit is better...just that if set up right it can sound as good if not better..

if you dont wanna spend alot of money on new equipment yet or ever for that matter goto hawk shops!!!!! pawnshops are the best to get used shit cheap! i got both my ampos for 100 bux!!! my JBL's were 125 for the set with bandpass box.!

i sell audio setups and try to get peps to buy the best but i know how the scene is and that alot of folks cant afford the best..so i pride myself in doing what i can with what you got.. if you want cheap yet good sound let me know!! ill hook you up..

if you want name brand for cheap let me know i can still hook you up..

i just rewired and moved all my amps so i will be getting some pics of it soon.. mind you its not pretty YET!!!
anyhow back to the thread at hand good luck with your setup...and if you want anything let me know...

I'm just doing it b/c it's free, and I want to get to know the install process for when I get legit stuff. Once I get some money to spend on all that stuff I'll holler....