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    #16
    Also, if you're doing this in your home garage you might want an air dryer (it's kinda like an oil catch can, but you put alcohol/thinner in it, it will pull moisture out of the air going through the hose. They usually also work as a pressure regulator.

    And just to chime in, the most psi I've ever sprayed with (with a siphon gun) was ~25.

    I've only painted a couple of things, but so far they've all turned out clean. Always get some extra paint, and also (just to get into it) get some huge chunks of cardboard to practice on. Also helps with adjusting your pattern/psi.
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      #17
      ok
      what would be a good kind of sander
      orbital, disk, etc.


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        #18
        True im no pro but then I wasnt using the best gun out there. Harbor freight special ftw! I do not recommend that gun for paint lol. Primer application and so on yes since its cheap but actually painting something no. An orbital would be better. Thats what we used in class worked pretty well.

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          #19
          ok and im might put in some metal flake
          do i add it to the clear?


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            #20
            do these look like good sanders?

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              #21
              A quick recommendation, hit the bookstore and pick some books on painting. I have a book called "how to paint your car on a budget" by Ganahl, Pat. Its all good advice.

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                #22
                You add the flake in the paint not the clear from what I was told by my instructor. Anyway I can see why you wouldnt want to put it in clear it wouldnt have that smooth finish.

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                  #23
                  You want the 6 inch D/A sander. It has two settings (Dual action...get it?), one is a very aggressive setting (more like a grinder) and the other is more like a oscillating buffer. The aggressive setting will burn through layers of paint in about .5 second, while the buffer setting works better for smoothing just before painting/between coats.

                  As Nail said, flake goes into the color paint, not the clear. Flake can be tricky to do, because it can be hard to spray evenly. If this is your first time, you might want to go with a solid color, or at least a very very fine flake (cause it will disperse better). Also, as you are painting, swirl your gun around (to keep it mixed somewhat evenly).

                  If you are doing your entire car, you should try getting a small amount of paint and some random sheet of metal (fender from a junk yard would be perfect) and spend some time playing around with it (painting at different angles, work on getting even coats, practice sanding techniques, etc). It isn't like a rattle can, plus it's a lot more costly. Also, invest in a sanding block. They are cheap, but when you are sanding between coats it will help you get even pressure over the whole surface, so you won't go through layers easily.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by NAiL05
                    PPG is a paint company not a gun company. Guns vary depending on how much you want to spend. And yes I set my reg on my gun to around 40-60 depending. When you squeeze the trigger the PSI goes down anyway so really doesnt matter. Its all trigger control.
                    how far away from the car do you stand? ten feet. your wasting a lot of paint using that much psi.

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                      #25
                      i see alot of good advice for you, like get a how to paint your own car book.

                      In all honesty you do not want the flake in your paint, this will kill it's bass boat effect. most people put it in their clear, 1st coat and then go back with 2 more coats, then after it's dry, go back rewetsand with 600 or 800 grit and reclear 2 coats,, if you don't know how to wetsand and buff.


                      another trick we do, is use a clear basecoat such as dbc500 and add the flake in this with a flip controller, that allows the flake to be setting on top of the paint but it's in a chemical that will help it lay flat so it doesn't land on end causing a trashy look effect. then go back and put your 2-3 coats of clear.

                      sander: all i use is dynabrade hand orbital sander, make sure you don't get a fine cut, because they suck.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by gibbsrcing
                        how far away from the car do you stand? ten feet. your wasting a lot of paint using that much psi.
                        20 feet. Honestly I dont remember what I set my gun too since its been 3 years I have picked up a paint gun. The paint was free in class so really didnt matter to me.

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                          #27
                          I have a 26 gallon compressor that I used to paint my car. It turn out flawless!

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by benji
                            If you are doing your entire car, you should try getting a small amount of paint and some random sheet of metal (fender from a junk yard would be perfect) and spend some time playing around with it (painting at different angles, work on getting even coats, practice sanding techniques, etc). easily.
                            well since i need a new hood and fenders ill have spare body parts so that works


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                              #29
                              I think cardboard is nice to work on spray patterns. What we used to do in body class was use water in the gun to learn to adjust patterns and spray it on a metal surface then observe it after.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by NAiL05
                                I think cardboard is nice to work on spray patterns. What we used to do in body class was use water in the gun to learn to adjust patterns and spray it on a metal surface then observe it after.

                                I also use reducer in between coats when I'm cleaning the gun.
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