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    Rust repair panel install...help

    I bought a pair of the rust repair panels about 6 months ago and I've been putting it off for the longest time. At the moment I have the panels and a welder, as far as supplies go. What else am I going to need for this install? My rust is bad! I mean bad. I debated getting rid of the car but I just did the auto-to-manual swap and H22 swap so that'd be dumb to do at this point. I think the rust is so bad that I'm going to need some sheet metal other than the panels. I open the rear driver door and I can put my finger through the bottom part where the dogbone ends. The driver side is really bad and the passenger side isnt too bad but its still rusted. When I get to my garage, I'll take some pics so you can all tell me how bad it is haha. I have no experience with bodywork or welding and I feel like I may be getting in over my head. But then I also tell myself that I never did a motor or tranny swap before and I just did both with no help from anyone but cb7tuner.com . See, I'm not the type to pay someone to work on my car. I'd rather do it myself, save a little money and learn something new at the same time. I dont get my license back til July, so I have plenty of time to do this. I guess what I'm saying is, would it be wise for me to attempt this or should I break down and find someone to do it for me?? But I dont really have much money at the moment either. What other supplies would I need? Fiberglass or bondo? If anyone has experience with this kind of work, I would greatly appreciate any kind of advice or comments. I'll put some pics up in a few days. Thanks guys!

    Here's the driver's side, which is the worst out of the two sides.


    Here's the passenger side.


    The rust is even in the trunk.


    Pretty bad huh?
    Last edited by Speedfiend92lx; 05-25-2008, 03:46 PM.

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    in my opinion, rust panels arent the thing to start on if you have no bodywork experience. take the panels into a bodyshop and have them do it for you. you dont want to have to buy a second set of them because you messed up the first set. make sure you get estimates at several places and ask around the other car entusiasts near you who does good work.

    edit: for the record, i am almost always against paying to have stuff done. in my eyes if you want to roll with a modded vehicle, you should do all the mods yourself. in this case though, its not so much a mod as a major repair that is better left to people with experience.
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      #3
      OMG...I think that you and I might have about same rust damage on our cb7, except that mine underwent a cheap fix before I bought...
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        #4
        O I'm sure they're about the same. Someone did a cheap fix on mine b4 too. Thats how I got a huge piece of my wheel well missing. The old bondo chunk just kinda fell out one day haha. I guess its not that funny.

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          Anyone else? Comments, advice? I'm gonna try and get pics this weekend.

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            Originally posted by steelbluesleepR
            in my opinion, rust panels arent the thing to start on if you have no bodywork experience. take the panels into a bodyshop and have them do it for you. you dont want to have to buy a second set of them because you messed up the first set. make sure you get estimates at several places and ask around the other car entusiasts near you who does good work.

            edit: for the record, i am almost always against paying to have stuff done. in my eyes if you want to roll with a modded vehicle, you should do all the mods yourself. in this case though, its not so much a mod as a major repair that is better left to people with experience.
            X2 safety comes first. Rust isn't the thing you want to start body experience on. And Yes there is definatly a difference between mods and repairs

            Get someone whos knows what their doing to do the job.
            Or if you know someone in the industry, ask if they can help you do it so you can learn at the same time


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              you should deffinetly not do this on your own. find someone who has done it before and knows what is going on. one problem youll find is that a lot of shops will not do rust repair. because it is hard to do it is messy as hell and 9 times out of 10 the rust will come back. rust is like cancer. in most cases it comes back. you have to be sure that you get all the rust taken care of. though there are some newer chemicals out there that can help stop rust. its still probably in your best intrest to pay someone to do the work for you.

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                #8
                well basically you would need a welder.... gas fed preferably....(mig)
                you will need the mig wire..... the thickness of the wire that you should get should be (.6) i believe that is the thinnest.
                the thinner the wire you welding... the thinner the wire should be..

                you will be needing bondo and fiberglass hair<<< the last one would not absorve water like bondo does and it is more difficult to work then bondo.

                you will need "weld threw primer" for where you going to weld. this primer will help protect the bead from oxidation.

                then you would need a angle grinder/ grinder stone/cutting stone to cut the quarter panel and the patch panel.

                you will need expoxy primer/etching primer/ filler primer/sealer primer/paint/clear coat.....

                buffer etc etc etc......

                also depending on how much rust you have, you might have to fabricate a piece of metal to cover the hole in the wheel housing(inner metal)

                these are some of the pic of the process.

                http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=96915

                just make sure you have everything ready before you start working on the car.

                knowing the cb7 you might have to fabricate another piece of metal to go where the side skirt clips go.

                ps. to find the right settings for the welder you should practice in some scrap metal that has the same thickness of the patch panels or quarter panels of the car...

                when welding the patch panels to the car you should spot weld or tack weld so you don't overheat the metal and burn threw it..<<<< very important.

                for some reason i still think that the patch panels are a little thicker than the car body....
                Last edited by alb_accord; 03-05-2008, 02:29 AM.
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                  #9
                  everyone is saying to just give it to a professional and let them handle this. What says that the rust wont come back after the pro did it? Nothing. which would mean you just spent a lot of money and didnt really get anywhere.

                  I say give it a shot. The pros started somewhere, and there is no learning like self learning. ALso not to shit on your car or anything, cuz i love my car just as much as you do, but no other better place to start than on a "POS Accord". If you have a welder and the patch panel plus some other basic things that alb mentioned, you should be fine. Just practice on a sheet of metal with similar thickness, and try it out. Shit, i will be trying it on my car.

                  ONe thing i read up on doing, is there is some tool that bends the metal inwards so that there is some metal under the patch panel so your not just welding the edges together. I need to look into that some more.

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                    #10
                    Thanks for the tips guys. One of the reasons I wanna do it myself is bc I know that I'll take the time and get ALL the rust out. I am definitely gonna need some sheet metal for the inner wheel wells and under the trunk/rear seat area. Alb_accord, thanks for the list of stuff I'm going to need. I'm gonna get my car put back together then start to tackle this project. I figure if I mess something up then I'll start over.

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                      #11
                      no problem bro. just practice welding two pieces of metal together..... take ur time with it.

                      if you have any questions just hit me up
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