seafoam

[whitejdmcb7]

i put it in my motor at 210k and it ran basicly the same no leaks or nothin i just put it in the intake and gas tank though

[1993ACCORDMAN]

re

Ok, so my question is about how to use the stuff. I went and bought a can of it. I know you can put either half gas tank/half PCV or Brake Booster or you can do 1/3 gas tank 1/3 oil and 1/3 pcv or brake booster. My question is this- do I need to warm the car up before putting the stuff in? and do I dump it in with the car running or turned off? Im ready for a oil change so I figured it be a good time to do it.\

Thanks

[ikayto]

ideally the car should be warm from a couple drives around the block, that way the sea foam can evaporate faster and the built up carbon is hot enough to be dissolved easier

the car has to be on for the pcv/brake booster but has to be off for the gasoline and oil portion for safety reasons lol.

you're suppose to let the brake booster and pcv slurp the sea foam from a cup, and not chug other wise your car would stall or hydrolock.

with the brake booster, your idle is going to go crazy once you remove the line.

good luck, you cant screw up that bad.

[1993ACCORDMAN]

re

cool man. that explains it alot better. i will give it a shot when fuel gets low and right before oil change. sounds fairly easy to do. Dont think it ever been done to the car yet. With 123K on it I figure it needs it pretty bad

[BootlegCB7]

well I seafoamed my pos couple weeks ago, 2/3 went into manifold 1/3 gas tank with 1/3 tank of gas. did the manifold part twice in one day, first time, no smoke at all, second time some smoke and lowers my idle for a bit.
haven't change my oil yet,

I think I'm gonna seafoam it again, this time 1/3 mani, 1/3 gas, 1/3 oil. run it for 10-15 miles and then change my oil, better oil this time(mobile 5000?) and some lucas stabilizer (i have a gallon of this stuff).

[ikayto]

i think you're suppose to have at least half a tank of gas if you're adding to the tank.

[1993ACCORDMAN]

re

Oh, well in that case Im good to go. lol that where Im sitting at now

[bcjammerx]

hello, dont compare a bad doctor telling you to smoke to a manufacturer telling you how to use their product effectively...That whole spirited driving direction has been done by A LOT of people, the only time anything has ever gone wrong is from dumb people that don't change their oil after dumping it in the oil.

It is a perfect example...business' giving false data/information to continue to sell their product...who do you think paid that doctor? The tobacco company. These are facts of the world we live in...you should take that to heart and remember it. Just a fact of life.

I am not stupid enough to believe what a company tells me about the product they want me to buy...why would you believe what they say? There are too many examples of companies either outright lying or just using..."misleading" information...trusting them is not a good idea. Usually they give misleading info...on a grand scale.

If you would rather an automotive product then I shall give you one...prolong oil additive.

They show a dodge viper (amongst other cars) running VERY hard with no oil in their crankcase in a desert track after having this oil treatment. The viper driver doesn't believe the motor doesn't lock up so he takes it for another round on the track.

AND NO DAMAGE!!! OR WEAR!!

it was all faked...prolong was later shown (in several independent studies) to actually cause more wear then when it was not used. And engines could not be ran without oil...here is the article

taken from http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

"The manufacturers of the ProLong engine additive were dealt a smack in the face by a Consumer Reports Magazine report into their product. CR attempted to reproduce the "no oil" test where all the oil was drained out of an engine which had been treated with ProLong, and then the engine was run. CR managed a maximum of 13 seconds running out of each of two engine before they seized up, welding the pistons to the barrels. The case was brought to a Federal Commision for prosecution for false advertising claims. You can subscribe to the online version of Consumer Reports here for a minimal fee, and read all about it in their October 1998 features.
Source: Consumer Reports, October 1998.
The FTC ultimately settled it's investigation with Prolong, without fines of any kind. After 18 months of testing the FTC indicated that Prolong is exactly what they say it is. Further, the FTC has approved Prolong's new advertising statement, currently in print in Car and Driver, as "The World's Most Powerful Oil".

so go ahead...believe every word you hear...whatever

How bout you PROVE that it is a bad idea instead of theorizing.

Plenty of people have run seafoam in their oil for a while. I ran mine for 3k without problems. The oil wasn't all that much thinner to the touch. Engine ran fine.

Uhm...are you serious? Come on guys this is common sense...if you add a fluid that is less dense to another fluid, then you will effectively reduce overall density...or in this case...viscosity...do you follow that? Is that too much science for you? Add sae20 to 90weight gear oil...and what do you get...not 90 weight...add gasoline to 10w30...and what do you get...REALLY thin oil...ever done that to burn old oil? My grandfather has...makes thick oil like water!

Tell you what...dump some gasoline in your oil...what you mean you won't? why not? Why don't you put a bunch of coolant...or water in your oil? You wouldn't do that? Why not? Why don't you put some 0w oil in there then? You won't do that either huh? And why not?

BECAUSE IT THINS THE OIL...that is proof enough...no theorizing...this is already a proven fact...

that fact being that thinned oil is bad...there is plenty of proof for that...if you can't see that then there's not much point in me continuing this discussion.

You MIGHT could argue about letting it just idle (with oil and seafoam mixture) won't cause damage...I wouldn't recommend that still...but that might could be argued.

BUT revving? That is unwise...very unwise...to rev and engine...with thinned oil...come on...you have to be kidding.

Use seafoam in your TB...and in your gas tank...do not use it in your oil. I don't care what they say on their site, companies lie...and they do so blatantly...I'm not paranoid...I'm using wisdom, knowledge, and experience...ignore that...do what you will...it's your car not mine. Just don't kid yourself into believing the companies are looking out for you..HA...good grief

[Law Grandeur]

100% correct because after all, companies never lie to make money.

there was once a doctor recommended cigarette...for your health...
point being...don't believe everything you read

Hell the fact that they tell you take the car " for a spirited drive, being sure to rev high"...come on...common sense here folks! That should tell you they are full of crap. Seafoam THINS your oil...I'm sure it tears down the protective properties too.

until I see some independant studies showing seafoam does not cause premature bearing wear or other problems when "spirited driving and reved high" AND when idling or revved to 2k with it in the oil...I will never use it in the oil...

again...in the gas tank...ok...in the intake...ok...mixed into the oil...not ok.

Do it...I don't care, I'm just telling you that it's not a good idea...

Sorry to burst the bubble of the the seafoam in the oil worshipers...but it is not a good idea.

if you wanna clean your engine oil out...there is a much better method that does not thin your oil and drop bearing protection...like these "engine flushes" do...guess what I thought was pretty common knowledge isn't so common. Engine flushes (mixed into oil that is) are bad for engines.

But again...don't believe me? HA HA...your not working on my car so I don't really care what you do...just giving a heads up.

umm it says you have to do an oil change AFTER you go for that "spirited driving and revved high" ride. Meaning the thinned oil that was once in there will be changed out with new thicker oil with a new filter too. if you are worried about seals then add some lubricant for that along with the new oil. I havent tried it and i doubt any of the stores near me have it so im not worried. but just saying....


but the part i do see is revving a car with thinned oil before the oil change. i guess thats your point lol. oh well someone here do a vid of it. there are tons of vids of it on youtube and google video

[d112crzy]

It is a perfect example...business' giving false data/information to continue to sell their product...who do you think paid that doctor? The tobacco company. These are facts of the world we live in...you should take that to heart and remember it. Just a fact of life.

I am not stupid enough to believe what a company tells me about the product they want me to buy...why would you believe what they say? There are too many examples of companies either outright lying or just using..."misleading" information...trusting them is not a good idea. Usually they give misleading info...on a grand scale.

If you would rather an automotive product then I shall give you one...prolong oil additive.

They show a dodge viper (amongst other cars) running VERY hard with no oil in their crankcase in a desert track after having this oil treatment. The viper driver doesn't believe the motor doesn't lock up so he takes it for another round on the track.

AND NO DAMAGE!!! OR WEAR!!

it was all faked...prolong was later shown (in several independent studies) to actually cause more wear then when it was not used. And engines could not be ran without oil...here is the article

taken from http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

"The manufacturers of the ProLong engine additive were dealt a smack in the face by a Consumer Reports Magazine report into their product. CR attempted to reproduce the "no oil" test where all the oil was drained out of an engine which had been treated with ProLong, and then the engine was run. CR managed a maximum of 13 seconds running out of each of two engine before they seized up, welding the pistons to the barrels. The case was brought to a Federal Commision for prosecution for false advertising claims. You can subscribe to the online version of Consumer Reports here for a minimal fee, and read all about it in their October 1998 features.
Source: Consumer Reports, October 1998.
The FTC ultimately settled it's investigation with Prolong, without fines of any kind. After 18 months of testing the FTC indicated that Prolong is exactly what they say it is. Further, the FTC has approved Prolong's new advertising statement, currently in print in Car and Driver, as "The World's Most Powerful Oil".

so go ahead...believe every word you hear...whatever



Uhm...are you serious? Come on guys this is common sense...if you add a fluid that is less dense to another fluid, then you will effectively reduce overall density...or in this case...viscosity...do you follow that? Is that too much science for you? Add sae20 to 90weight gear oil...and what do you get...not 90 weight...add gasoline to 10w30...and what do you get...REALLY thin oil...ever done that to burn old oil? My grandfather has...makes thick oil like water!

Tell you what...dump some gasoline in your oil...what you mean you won't? why not? Why don't you put a bunch of coolant...or water in your oil? You wouldn't do that? Why not? Why don't you put some 0w oil in there then? You won't do that either huh? And why not?

BECAUSE IT THINS THE OIL...that is proof enough...no theorizing...this is already a proven fact...

that fact being that thinned oil is bad...there is plenty of proof for that...if you can't see that then there's not much point in me continuing this discussion.

You MIGHT could argue about letting it just idle (with oil and seafoam mixture) won't cause damage...I wouldn't recommend that still...but that might could be argued.

BUT revving? That is unwise...very unwise...to rev and engine...with thinned oil...come on...you have to be kidding.

Use seafoam in your TB...and in your gas tank...do not use it in your oil. I don't care what they say on their site, companies lie...and they do so blatantly...I'm not paranoid...I'm using wisdom, knowledge, and experience...ignore that...do what you will...it's your car not mine. Just don't kid yourself into believing the companies are looking out for you..HA...good grief

Go pour 1/3 can into 4 quarts of 10w30 and tell me how much it really thins out.

You're still theorizing. I will take apart my engine and show you it did no damage.

Just like with everything else on this forum, people think too much and too hard about something not that big of a deal.
Like turbo'ing "high compression" h22's, for example.

Not a big deal at all.

[Gotz Cb7]

Yea, seafoam's done me well. My friend also. "Dude, that shit sucks. I can't tell any difference". So, we let the car sit in his garage over night, went to start it up....but too bad the garage door wasn't open. Took him about an hour to get all the carbon that came outta the exhaust, off his garage door. Priceless.

[Pandemic]

Yea, seafoam's done me well. My friend also. "Dude, that shit sucks. I can't tell any difference". So, we let the car sit in his garage over night, went to start it up....but too bad the garage door wasn't open. Took him about an hour to get all the carbon that came outta the exhaust, off his garage door. Priceless.

lol

[QUOTE = bcjammerx]
...Why don't you put a bunch of coolant...or water in your oil? You wouldn't do that? Why not? Why don't you put some 0w oil in there then? You won't do that either huh? And why not?

BECAUSE IT THINS THE OIL...that is proof enough...no theorizing...this is already a proven fact...
[/QUOTE]

Oil doesnt mix with water
No offence to anyone else, but I'm siding with his theory. It might not thin it much, but it makes me nervous and I wont personally do it. I mean, the entire thing is full of carbon, hence black oil. If seafoam didnt hurt your engine and cleaned it out, then carbon will be back in 1000 miles anyway.

Seafoam (might) be alright to put some in your oil and let idle. I'll have to measure out 1/3 can of sea foam to 4qt of oil to see exactly what the impact is to be sure.

[Law Grandeur]

Yea, seafoam's done me well. My friend also. "Dude, that shit sucks. I can't tell any difference". So, we let the car sit in his garage over night, went to start it up....but too bad the garage door wasn't open. Took him about an hour to get all the carbon that came outta the exhaust, off his garage door. Priceless.

lol thats awesome

[IBCNYA]

Best to replace your plugs after seafoam.....they will be black. My intake cleaning killed a set of my plugs once so bad the car wouldnt get enough fire to start.

[bcjammerx]

I'm always willing to admit when I'm wrong...and considering the amount adding in (from site 1/3 of a pint [= 5oz])...I suppose 2k rpms wouldn't damage the engine as I was thinking it would, I had it in my head that you added much more than that.

I'm still no fan of the "spirited driving" or high revving part but again, considering the amount you add is less than I was thinking then I dislike seafoam a little less.