Heres the story (its a long one), I just picked up a CB7 (A6) . when i first got the car, it drove like poo(no power). i would stomp on the gas pedal and it wouldn't move..felt really sluggish, hesitant...felt like the cat was clogged, also it would rev up really slowly in neutral [also my car had failed emissions test (smog test)] . So i had my mechanic check it out..he checked the timing marks on the flywheel with the cam marks and we both saw it was perfectly lined up. however i noticed that the top bolt on the distributor wasn't centered. so we compared it to his CB7, and his was pretty much centered. so we looked at mine, and it was positioned towards the front bumper (advanced? or retarded?). so we loosened the 3 bolts holding the distibutor and turned it all the way towards the fire wall (advanced? or retarded?) just to see what happens. INSTANTLY the car is reving faster and theres ALOT more power at low end! the shop was closing up so we left the distributor turned all the way towards the front of the car and tightened the 3 bolts. now i just tried searching for answers, but i am very confused..i have read that turning the dist counter-clockwise is advancing, and clockwise is retarding. What i have read is that advancing will give more power low end and retarding will give more power in high end..but i got the opposite results..my mech also suspects that my wires or cap/rotor should be replaced cuz theres a slight miss fire (new NGK plugs installed already BTW).... SO HELP ME fellow CB7 tuners! school me on ignition timing. thanks! (also, is there a problem leaving the ignition timing where it is at the moment?)
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Need help understanding retarding and advancing ignition timing!!!!
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Need help understanding retarding and advancing ignition timing!!!!
Last edited by mugen_accord88; 12-23-2007, 08:15 PM.Tags: None
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i play with my distributor all the time. if ur on the tranny side and looking at the cap and wires turn it clockwise for an adavance. more power instantaly but not as good of gas milage. counter clockwise is retarted cause it slows the RPMs. i usually ride around with mine all the way advanced and iv'e never had any probs just a little more power. also if u have the timing all the way, u don't have to but i would STONGLY recmond 93 octane gas. yea it costs a little more but with the timing being advanced the valves are gonna ping a little but the high test will stop that and give u a little more power
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Advancing your timing beyond 2 degrees can cause major damage. chillin943's statement that "the valves will ping a little" shows QUITE clearly that he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Pinging has nothing to do with your valves. Pinging is caused by uncontrolled explosions in your combustion chamber. Detonation. Enough of it will destroy your motor.
DO NOT advance your timing without a timing light, unless you know exactly what you are doing.
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Originally posted by deevergoteAdvancing your timing beyond 2 degrees can cause major damage. chillin943's statement that "the valves will ping a little" shows QUITE clearly that he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Pinging has nothing to do with your valves. Pinging is caused by uncontrolled explosions in your combustion chamber. Detonation. Enough of it will destroy your motor.
DO NOT advance your timing without a timing light, unless you know exactly what you are doing.
I've run a lot more advance at idle than the distributor could go.
You don't even have to upgrade your gasoline.
F22's have a high resistance for detonation.
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Originally posted by mugen_accord88OK nevermind. i just checked my distributor, and it turns out my mech turned it counter clockwise (retarded)..and my car was advanced to begin with...now tell me, what was wrong when it was advanced? why didn't i have any low end power?????
how many miles on the motor??? might be just sluggish cuz of age, ya never know, just give a full tune up, and see wat happens, especially the fuel filter, now that sucker can be a head breaker, especially when ya fix everythin else and nothin, then when ya change that filter evrything worksOLD
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motor has 290,000 kms (roughly less that 180,000 miles)
so i guess by retarding the ignition timing, it gave me back the power i needed in the low end right?
i already have new NGK iridium plugs in it..gonna replace wires, cap + rotor and fuel filter and go from there.
also, i'm gonna get it timed properly, gonna move it to the middle (roughly where it should be)
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