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what is better a short ram intake or cold air?

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    #16
    You have to enlarge a hole for the Cold air.

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      #17
      yeh

      the hole were the factory black plastic pipe goes down under the bumber ....my pipes diameter was to big to fit through the hole so i made the hole biger wit an eletric saw it was easy though.... hey how low did u drop ur car looks good thinkin about dropin mine after winter..
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        #18
        I like the suction/deeper sound a cold air makes, it also makes more power since it gets the cooler air from the bumper vs. inside the engine bay. If you live in a dryer area lilke AZ then get the cold air hands down. If you live in Seattle or something, def. get a bypass valve with the cold air.

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          #19
          Originally posted by jaykilla116
          the hole were the factory black plastic pipe goes down under the bumber ....my pipes diameter was to big to fit through the hole so i made the hole biger wit an eletric saw it was easy though.... hey how low did u drop ur car looks good thinkin about dropin mine after winter..

          kool kool, i lowered it like 2 1/2 inches in the front and like 1 1/2 in the back...
          and i live in new mexico so i think id be ok with the cai. i have short ram now but imma get me cai soon..


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            #20
            ur sig is huge
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              #21
              turbo
              lol jk
              the difference is so small what intake you have. Go buy a delta regrind and make some real powa don't spend all ur money on stuff like intakes. Gut out the stock intake,lol.

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                #22
                Ive heard CAI's can suck water into your engine if you go through a deep puddle or something...idk if thats true or not. I also heard that for every 1 degree colder the air your car takes in you gain 1hp. Thats something else idk but just heard about.

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                  #23
                  Real world difference between cold air and short ram might be a single horsepower. F22HB is right: spend your money where you're going to make some real horsepower, like getting a cam from either Delta or Bisimoto. (I recommend Bisi.)

                  A cold air intake can very easily suck water into your engine if you run through a decent-sized puddle. The vacuum of the engine drawing in air sucks the water up the intake pipe and into the throttle body. Water doesn't compress. When it gets into a cylinder, you run into something called hydrolock. The air compresses as far as it can, then the piston runs into the water and stops dead. The results can be pretty dramatic, as I'm sure you can imagine. If you think you might run into any decent amount of rainfall and you're installing a CAI, do yourself a favor and get a bypass valve.
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                    #24
                    To top it off just make sure you secure the CAI I learned my lesson the hard way. I do miss CAI but eh I get what I pay for lol.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Camurai
                      Real world difference between cold air and short ram might be a single horsepower. F22HB is right: spend your money where you're going to make some real horsepower, like getting a cam from either Delta or Bisimoto. (I recommend Bisi.)

                      A cold air intake can very easily suck water into your engine if you run through a decent-sized puddle. The vacuum of the engine drawing in air sucks the water up the intake pipe and into the throttle body. Water doesn't compress. When it gets into a cylinder, you run into something called hydrolock. The air compresses as far as it can, then the piston runs into the water and stops dead. The results can be pretty dramatic, as I'm sure you can imagine. If you think you might run into any decent amount of rainfall and you're installing a CAI, do yourself a favor and get a bypass valve.
                      I have searched for vids of bypass valves, and how they work on cars suckin up water. I seen it once on tv, do u no where i can see this at.
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                        #26
                        cai owns sri.

                        get cold air with bypass valve (protects your intake from sucking up water if your intake gets submerged in water). with the bypass valve u have to cut the intake in half to put it in, cut it so in the winter (or rain) you can pull off the lower half and have short ram.

                        i think its smarter that way, thats how i have mine setup.

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                          #27
                          I haven't been able to find any video of the bypass valve in action, but this is a good article on how it works: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/te...lve/index.html

                          Sport Compact Car Magazine tested the bypass valve on the NSX owned and driven by John Concialdi, Chief Engineer at AEM. The car makes a reliable 250whp. They rigged up an external cold air intake tube out of clear plexiglass, then repeatedly dunked the filter in a fishtank full of water while Concialdi ripped off full-throttle dyno passes. The water never rose more than 18" up the intake pipe. When they pulled the filter out of the water with the engine still at WOT, the intake started to suck air through the water, whipping it into a froth, but it still refused to suck water into the engine. Feel free to read the article. It's entertaining, and very informative about the process of hydrolock.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by UrDoneSRH
                            cai owns sri.

                            get cold air with bypass valve (protects your intake from sucking up water if your intake gets submerged in water). with the bypass valve u have to cut the intake in half to put it in, cut it so in the winter (or rain) you can pull off the lower half and have short ram.

                            i think its smarter that way, thats how i have mine setup.
                            yeah the only drawback to that is the sound doesn't resonate as much and you dont get that nice growl at wide open throttle.

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                              #29
                              CAI all the way...my buddy had a bypass on his and worked great...SRI u def lost power...you'd be better with a K&N drop in filter in your stock air box set up...SRI heats up alot if your idling in traffic for a while on a hot day...overall u cant even compare a CAI to a SRI...
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Camurai
                                I haven't been able to find any video of the bypass valve in action, but this is a good article on how it works: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/te...lve/index.html

                                Sport Compact Car Magazine tested the bypass valve on the NSX owned and driven by John Concialdi, Chief Engineer at AEM. The car makes a reliable 250whp. They rigged up an external cold air intake tube out of clear plexiglass, then repeatedly dunked the filter in a fishtank full of water while Concialdi ripped off full-throttle dyno passes. The water never rose more than 18" up the intake pipe. When they pulled the filter out of the water with the engine still at WOT, the intake started to suck air through the water, whipping it into a froth, but it still refused to suck water into the engine. Feel free to read the article. It's entertaining, and very informative about the process of hydrolock.
                                Originally posted by 92coupe17
                                CAI all the way...my buddy had a bypass on his and worked great...SRI u def lost power...you'd be better with a K&N drop in filter in your stock air box set up...SRI heats up alot if your idling in traffic for a while on a hot day...overall u cant even compare a CAI to a SRI...
                                I can say with experience that I feel less power with the sri than the cai.
                                Thank you, case closed.

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