newbie - oil leak ?

[bmacb]

I am trying to diagnose and hopefully fix a major oil leak in a 93 accord.

It is coming from the timing belt area. After researching this forum I assumed it would be the front balance shaft seal. When I got the timing belt cover off I found the front seal was fine but there was a large leak that appears to be coming from the rear balance shaft.

Any suggestions on what could be causing a leak from that area? Ideas on how to fix it?

Thanks

[Shadow1]

replace them both and get a balance shaft seal retainer from Honda. its no more than like $8. but the balance shaft seals are more prone to walking out because they are spinning twice the speed of the motor. when the RPMs are at 5,oooRPMs the balance shafts are spinning at 1o,oooRPMs. at 7,oooRPMs, its at 14,oooRPMs. thats like 1st gear in a formula 1 car.

go to honda and buy a balance shaft seal retainer and install it. its the most common thing on our hondas to fail because they spin so fast.

[bmacb]

rear balance shift seal ?

Thanks for the quick response.

I bought a "retainer" from Honda to put in to keep the front balance shaft seal in place. But I can't seem to find a rear balance shaft seal. Does the same seal fit on both the front and rear balance shafts?

The parts guy at Honda offered what he called on oil pump gasket (fits between oil pump housing and balance shaft gear case). Given the volume of oil coming out it seemed unlikely to me that the problem was coming from a leaking gasket.

Your thoughts?

[drkshdw107]

replace them both and get a balance shaft seal retainer from Honda. its no more than like $8. but the balance shaft seals are more prone to walking out because they are spinning twice the speed of the motor. when the RPMs are at 5,oooRPMs the balance shafts are spinning at 1o,oooRPMs. at 7,oooRPMs, its at 14,oooRPMs. thats like 1st gear in a formula 1 car.

go to honda and buy a balance shaft seal retainer and install it. its the most common thing on our hondas to fail because they spin so fast.

x2 and while your at it you should replace the rest of them (cam, crank, and both balance shaft seals) and if you T-belt is soaked with oil, I personally would replace it.

Phil

[jhondayaaj]

Thanks for the quick response.

I bought a "retainer" from Honda to put in to keep the front balance shaft seal in place. But I can't seem to find a rear balance shaft seal. Does the same seal fit on both the front and rear balance shafts?

The parts guy at Honda offered what he called on oil pump gasket (fits between oil pump housing and balance shaft gear case). Given the volume of oil coming out it seemed unlikely to me that the problem was coming from a leaking gasket.

Your thoughts?

then take a picture of your leak. this will help us better help you.