F20b identical too h22?

[Vtechno]

the f20b is identical too the h22 other than internals correct? aftermarket parts such as intake, header, fuel rail ect....should be bought for h22, right?

also all the mounting position for the accessories like ac, p/s, and alternator are the same on the f20b as the h22, yes?

[MikeW]

I couldnt tell you how identical they are, sorry, but i can tell you that they are so close as far as hp and "do-ability" that some contemplate going f20b instead of h22. As a matter of fact there are a few members here (AlmostJDM comes to mind) that have done the total f20b swap. Id imagine with theyre ability to plug-n-play directly into the accords bay, that theyd share quite a few of the same components

[Puertorican_CB7]

I dont thinks so

[Vtechno]

question is because im about too buy a cb7 tomorrow and i want too start planning my first accord swap. ive done b's and d's a million times, so im no n00b. this is just a "different" platform thats all, lol.

basically i want too swap a vtec motor in, but cant decide between the h22 and f20b.

ive searched a bunch, but keep pulling up threads from 4 years ago and shit.

2 of my friends are running a h22 and f20b. the h22 is in an eg coup and the f20b is in an eg sedan with the H2B swap with gsr tranny.

ive driven both and i personally like the f20b for the "b16 like reving", plus its cheaper. wiring isnt a problem cause rywire will take care of that. ive had them do 3 of my cars, harnesses and ecus too match.

AC AND PS IS A MUST!!!!, so whichever is easier, im going too do.

if the pros and cons are practically the same on both, ima go with the f20. then alls ima worry about is the ODB i want. AND im wanting too know if the f20 head is an h22. like if i can buy and aftermarket valvetrain for the h22 and use it in the f20. i love me some Crower, lol. i heard the f20 valves were smaller, but that didnt come from a reliable source.

do yall see where im comming from?

[MikeW]

I was gonna say..if you like to rev, then f20b is the way to go.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...highlight=f20b

They're similar. Ask yourself, do you want to rev high, or do you want low-end power?

The differences aren't quite as drastic as it may seem. .2L isn't earth-shattering, and the extra RPMs you get from the F20B aren't astronomically high...

The F20B has a peakier powerband, though. It would be fun, but I'd stick to the H22.

..from that thread. That pretty much sums it up.

Sounds to me, like youd like the f20 better.

[deevergote]

Where do people get this "F20B is cheaper" stuff? I have yet to find an F20B that wasn't $100 more than an H22. If it IS cheaper, it's the underpowered automatic version.

For the most part, the F20B is the same as the H22. I am pretty sure (don't take my word for fact) that everything is the same as far as external bolt-on stuff goes. Cams are probably the same as well.

[xScott]

Where do people get this "F20B is cheaper" stuff? I have yet to find an F20B that wasn't $100 more than an H22. If it IS cheaper, it's the underpowered automatic version.

For the most part, the F20B is the same as the H22. I am pretty sure (don't take my word for fact) that everything is the same as far as external bolt-on stuff goes. Cams are probably the same as well.

My intake manifold and crank pulley are both off of F20B's, and i never had any fittiment issues.

[NAiL05]

F20B is similar to the H22A in most ways other than the internal bits.

[nolehorridus]

i'd make sure i got the 200hp manual motor and not the 180hp auto motor. you can only go by the stamping on it since they can swap over the tranny. some do this on purpose, some don't know the difference and by just the block, and some are screwed over themselves. there are more auto motors from what i've seen than manuals, so i'd be careful i got what i paid for.

if you get the 180hp f20b, you'll probably not be very happy when you realize that it's not much faster than an h23a1 cb7.

[jhondayaaj]

I would have to agree with Nail05. I have an f20b sittin in my garage right now and the h22 intake manifold bolts on to the head just fine. and I believe the f20b are a little more pricey than the h22's are. at least here in cali they are.

and fizzbob7, how can you tell from the f20b motor if it is auto or manual??

[blizzard335]

I would have to agree with Nail05. I have an f20b sittin in my garage right now and the h22 intake manifold bolts on to the head just fine. and I believe the f20b are a little more pricey than the h22's are. at least here in cali they are.

and fizzbob7, how can you tell from the f20b motor if it is auto or manual??

almostJDM can answer that, he has the 200PS (not 200hp) SiR-T engine under his bonnet.

[lo-specials]

almostJDM can answer that, he has the 200PS (not 200hp) SiR-T engine under his bonnet.

What's the difference?

[fatboy1185]

pistons are different, valves are different, rods are different.

bolt ons, cams, springs, retainers, timing belt, is all same. throttle body and intake manifold size is different, but bolts up same. dont use h22 intake manifold either, gives a bouncey idle for some reason

[lo-specials]

pistons are different, valves are different, rods are different.

bolt ons, cams, springs, retainers, timing belt, is all same. throttle body and intake manifold size is different, but bolts up same. dont use h22 intake manifold either, gives a bouncey idle for some reason

Thanks

but what's the difference between 200 PS and 200 HP?

[10thcb7]

I thought the f20-vtech had a smaller crank and smaller combustion chambers than the H22. Id sport the F20Btec if money wasnt money