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    #16
    Originally posted by 4GAccordH22
    OK, when I said tunable on the fly, I meant you never have to burn a chip. And if you want to have 7 different maps for 7 different driving situations, all you need is a USB cable and a laptop to store the maps. Plug in the laptop, start up the software, upload the map of your choice and drive away. The S300 has built in datalogging with no special equipment needed. Plug in the laptop and download the datalogs. You can change the parameters for the datalogs, say you want it to start when you accelerate to 40 MPH and stop when you decelerate to 15 MPH. Set ip up and drive away.

    I have nothing against Crome or Uberdata, but since I installed my Hondata, I've gotten partial to them. You CAN tune it yourself (As I have done in the past), but if you want a real good tune, you need to dyno tune it. And this is true of ANY tunable ECU...
    EVERYTHING you mentioned here can be done with Crome and Ostritch.

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      #17
      The only thing is that with any emulator such as the Ostrich, you can't leave the map on there... well, you CAN, but it's not smart.

      Hondata isn't bad. It's very good. But overpriced and beyond the needs of many tuners on this board. Same with Motec and Electromotive, as I mentioned above. Fantastic products, but the cost outweighs the benefits and usage. Not to mention, such a package (Hondata included) must be purchased for a large sum up front. With the chipped ECU, crome/uber, ostrich, chip burner setup, you can spend smaller amounts of money at a time.

      For this community, it's difficult to plop a large sum down for one thing... when you can often get the car itself for the price of one quality item!






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        #18
        Originally posted by deevergote
        You can datalog with Crome and the right cables. The Ostrich is an emulator, that allows you to load the map and run it on the fly. No burning necessary. Not until the map is where you want it, and you want it permanent. I believe there are other such emulators, but the Ostrich is the only one I've ever seen used in person (MRX used it when he tuned my car)

        Does Ostrich have a website for more information?

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          #19
          http://www.moates.net/product_info.php?products_id=57






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            #20
            Ostrich is a piece of equipment. You can get it from xenocron.com or moates.net.


            Fuck Hondata. If you're gona spend that much money, you might as well go with Neptune RTP. It fucking owns the hell out of ANY Hondata.

            OR wait for eCtune.

            There is a new ostrich that you can install and keep inside your chipped ecu. SO you never need to burn a chip. Also, with crome or even uberdata, there is only one USB cable connecting from the laptop to the ecu

            Please don't talk out of your ass unless you're 100% sure.

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              #21
              Thanks!

              Can this be compared to a powerbox for VW? I mean, can you plug it to the ecu, how does it work?

              Your car is faster, I'm the better driver

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                #22
                You can't say Hondata is bad... It's a similar argument when you're comparing an H22A to and H22A type S. Type S makes more power. Regular is cheaper. Cheaper can be made faster with the same money. However, it requires more stuff to do it, and possibly more stuff to learn.


                Hondata: plug it in, learn how to use it, and tune. Expensive.

                Crome/ostrich/etc... Multiple pieces of equipment which must be installed properly. Cheaper.



                Whichever one makes sense to you is the right one to get.






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                  #23
                  NO one said anything about Hondata being bad.....

                  I simply said there are better programs(neptune/ectune) for similar prices.

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                    #24
                    True... but the general vibe of the knowledgeable tuners on here is that Hondata sucks, which isn't true at all. I just wanted to point that out, before we get an anti-Hondata click going on here for no reason.

                    Jose, you have a good reason to prefer other applications. You know what you need, what you want, and how to evaluate different systems. Any beginner that sees "Fuck Hondata" will start regurgitating that sentiment. Next thing you know, people will be saying that they're crap. Not that I care about their reputation, and I'm sure they don't care about the opinions of a bunch of 18 year old tuners messing with equally old cars...
                    Still, I've seen the opinions of the educated turn into the facts of the uneducated.






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                      #25
                      Well said, Deev. I wasn't knocking any of the other options (Crome/Ostrich...), I was stating what was possible with the Hondata. It is the route I chose and I am extremely happy with it.

                      And d112, I wasn't talking out my ass. I stated clearly
                      Originally posted by 4GAccordH22
                      The S300 is the only ECU "chip" I know of that is tunable on the fly.
                      And I stand corrected, but it seems to me that each time you come back at me, you're adding more equipment (ie: emulators and such). If you don't like Hondata, that's your preference. I, on the other hand, prefer the Hondata. I could go out and tell everyone "Crome sucks and anyone that tells you otherwise is full of shit" (that was for emphasis, not what I believe) and that there is only one way to tune an ECU (not true as we all know). I respect your opinion and I would hope that you respect the opinions of others. If you can point out what makes your choice better than mine (other than cost, that's already been well covered) then I might take you seriously. Otherwise don't knock it till you've tried it. Speaking of which, I know that you tune ECUs with your choice of software, but have you ever really tried a Hondata system?
                      Originally posted by Junior Smurff
                      Nevermind guys, google search works wonders!

                      I don't have road rage, my car just goes faster than yours!

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                      I have grown so Tired of Internet Illiteracy. Please learn proper spelling and grammar. For your sake and that of your children.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by 4GAccordH22
                        Well said, Deev. I wasn't knocking any of the other options (Crome/Ostrich...), I was stating what was possible with the Hondata. It is the route I chose and I am extremely happy with it.

                        And d112, I wasn't talking out my ass. I stated clearly And I stand corrected, but it seems to me that each time you come back at me, you're adding more equipment (ie: emulators and such).
                        No one is adding equipment. Crome + ostritch. thats what we have said from the begining. Ostritch IS an emulator, and if you think your hondata is ANY different, you are mistaken. all hondata is, is a fancy, expensive ostritch.

                        No one here "hates" hondata, its just that we are cheap, and no one wants to spend money on something they can get for 1/3 price.

                        You're opinion is just as valid as anyone here's. However, im not going to suggest something i dont personally think is worth the money.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Accord R33
                          No one is adding equipment. Crome + ostritch. thats what we have said from the begining. Ostritch IS an emulator, and if you think your hondata is ANY different, you are mistaken. all hondata is, is a fancy, expensive ostritch.

                          No one here "hates" hondata, its just that we are cheap, and no one wants to spend money on something they can get for 1/3 price.

                          You're opinion is just as valid as anyone here's. However, im not going to suggest something i dont personally think is worth the money.
                          Exactly.

                          A hondata chip has an emulator integrated into it. For crome/uber, it's external.

                          I haven't said Hondata sucks. It's a great program, just not worth the money considering there are much better(neptune) options for the same price.

                          I've tuned with more programs than you probably know of.

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                            #28
                            I think theres another option here, maybe some of you i.e D112 have heard of EcTune? I dont know if the program is out on the market yet, but you can always do a search. Thats what my tuner is using for my setup

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