f22b1 into 1990 lx coupe

[trouty]

i threw a rod threw the block, big hole, need a new block. ive got a f22b1 sohc vtec. ive read two different tech articles on this. one was just a head swap onto the f22a1 block. the other was the entire engine. i need to know if i can drop in the entire engine with all the 94-97 accessories, a/c and p/s. and is there no header that fits without modifying the front crossmember?

[NAiL05]

Buy something better the b1 isnt worth anything.

[trouty]

why not? besides the A1 having probably the best flowing F-series head.

[NAiL05]

Just for 145 crank hp there are better choices. The F22B non vtec would stomp a b1 and its only like 600 or so if I remember depending on where you order from.

[deevergote]

True. I just responded to your post on HHU as well.

Honestly, the F22B1 is a TERRIBLE motor. VTEC may sound cool, but with that motor, it's not any sort of performance enhancement. The head flows horribly. It's a lot of work to install. It's just... not good. IMO, the worst F series honda ever made.

If you want a cheap SOHC motor, get another F22A, or at least an F23A. The F23A is a bit better than the F22B1 (still not fantastic, but better).

If you want a cheap DOHC motor, the F22B DOHC is a decent choice.

The H22A is still the most potent drop-in swap, and well worth the money, IMO. It's the only way to gain 75hp and still retain an otherwise stock engine!

[cegpcola]

True. I just responded to your post on HHU as well.

Honestly, the F22B1 is a TERRIBLE motor. VTEC may sound cool, but with that motor, it's not any sort of performance enhancement. The head flows horribly. It's a lot of work to install. It's just... not good. IMO, the worst F series honda ever made.

If you want a cheap SOHC motor, get another F22A, or at least an F23A. The F23A is a bit better than the F22B1 (still not fantastic, but better).

If you want a cheap DOHC motor, the F22B DOHC is a decent choice.

The H22A is still the most potent drop-in swap, and well worth the money, IMO. It's the only way to gain 75hp and still retain an otherwise stock engine!

You can't really argue that. The H22 is not to much more than anything else out there.

[NAiL05]

K series will rape an h22a if anyone has enough money to buy one and decide to play with the wiring.

[cegpcola]

K series will rape an h22a if anyone has enough money to buy one and decide to play with the wiring.

I agree, but damn at the wiring headachs.

[deevergote]

At this point, the K series is not really an option. Suggesting it to anyone who has to ask about swaps for a $500-$3000 CB7 is pointless, simply because a) they most likely don't have the money, or they wouldn't be modifying such an old car, or b) if they have to ask questions, they clearly aren't prepared for the fabrication needed.

And truthfully, the K series isn't THAT spectacular. For the price of a K20 or K24, you could have an H22 with quality bolt-ons making more power, or a heavily modified F22 making more power. The cost/power ratio is not in our favor at the moment.

[91 EX-R]

i dont think he was asking if he should buy it or not, i think he was just asking for help on how to swap it in. he said in his first post that he already has the F22B1 and wanted to know if it swapped in easily or not. check the swaps section man.

[deevergote]

Yeah, but it's not in yet... there's still time to change his mind!

Check the swap sections, or PM xfactortype1 or highc... I believe they both have the swap (or did, highc no longer has his car, I don't think)

[Bboy_Trevstuh]

Don't do it I had that swap and it was a bad choice I made. Try and find you another f22ax or h23 something in that state of mind because you will be upset for swapping in the f22b1 trust me bro!

[starchland]

from what i read this swap sucks and its more work. id say if ur gonna spend time swapping put some more power under ur hood