Couple of questions regardin vtech head

[90exaccord]

does a vtech head off a h22 fit on a f22a4

just asking cuz a homboy is sellin me a h22 in $100 bones and he said that the block doesnt work, but the head does

[blackcb7]

it does but i highly suggest you don't do it, just buy an h22 or h23 block and build it, the frankenstien motors always have problems, thats pretty cheap for and h22 head, i guy on here did a while back, don't know what happened

[MadSpleen85]

it does but i highly suggest you don't do it, just buy an h22 or h23 block and build it, the frankenstien motors always have problems, thats pretty cheap for and h22 head, i guy on here did a while back, don't know what happened

x2 Havent heard to many stories of frankenstien motors having good luck for very long. Later

[deevergote]

There really aren't enough F22/H22 frankenstein motors around to say if it would be reliable or not. Since you say "vtech", I assume you know very little about these motors... which means the chances of building a reliable hybrid aren't very good. Finding a local shop that is willing to do it is also a bit risky. I've learned in my time to NEVER trust a mechanic based solely on their position. I've met mechanics that knew considerably less about my car than I do, and I still have a lot to learn!

If you can get an H22 with a bad block for $100, DO IT! $100 for the head alone is a great price.

Honestly, what I would do in that situation is this: Buy the motor and store it, as is. Save up about $2500 to get the block re-sleeved, and drop in some forged rods and pistons. Go high compression and a bigger bore/stroke (F22 crank works for this) if you want good NA power. Go low compression if you want turbo.

A $100 H22 that needs a rebuild is like striking gold. For slightly more than the price of a working stock H22, you can have yourself a fully built monster!

[Accord R33]

I've met mechanics that knew considerably less about my car than I do, and I still have a lot to learn!

Professional Mechanics tend to know a little bit about everything, but its rare to find one that is a honda expert, never mind one who is and expert with accords

[dbsharp]

and if you dont wanna take this project on let me buy it for 100 and I build it!

[Dirty Harry]

Professional Mechanics tend to know a little bit about everything, but its rare to find one that is a honda expert, never mind one who is and expert with accords

Fine, if you're the guy that can't spell VTEC, but YOU Eric?!

[Accord R33]

Fine, if you're the guy that can't spell VTEC, but YOU Eric?!

Ill go shoot myself.

brb

[deevergote]

I believe it's "I'll", meaning "I will". Ill makes no sense! (kidding)

Honestly, if spelling is THAT big of a deal, then don't bother reading the posts. It's one thing when someone is lazy and types like they're rapping with one hand down their pants. It's another when someone truly TRIES to get their point across and either doesn't know how to spell a word, or doesn't realize they are spelling it wrong (like VTEC... I don't expect everyone in the Beginner Forums to understand what it means...)

[rickyduckworth]

just remember that if you don't drive it like the type of block you have (in this case, a regular accord) then it probably won't last long.....driving it like an f22a is a waste if you have an h22a head......the only reason i'd do it is for turbo purposes....that superior flowing head would be great and utilized even if you drove it like an f22........

but fuck it, i'd rather walk......i can walk fast

[deevergote]

Right. The H22 makes it's power up high. It's a high compression, high revving motor. Putting the H22 head on the F22 block won't be nearly as good, because the compression will be lower, and the internals aren't made to rev to 7500. Try to treat a hybrid like a full H22 and you'll find yourself walking.

The headswap thing is interesting, but I don't think I'd ever do it. I could pay $600 for everything needed to do an H22 headswap, or $1800 for a full H22. In a year, that $1800 H22 will most likely still be running strong with nothing but regular maintenance. Who knows how reliable that headswap will prove to be... sure, it may last. Or it may not. I'd rather pay $1800 for an easy, relaible bolt-in motor, than spend a TON of time creating my own motor for less money. Definitely not on a daily driver, that's for sure!

[90exaccord]

thanks for your posts, and um yeah i think ill buy the block and rebuilt it from the ground up , i dont want to buy just the head and have tons of problems later on .

well, thanks u guys

[Night Wolf]

why dont you just stick a SOHC VTEC head on it?

[d112crzy]

because sohc vtec is like wipin your butt before you poop, it just dont make sense.

[deevergote]

because sohc vtec is like wipin your butt before you poop, it just dont make sense.

How true!

If you look at the specs, a SOHC VTEC motor like the F22B1 doesn't make much more power than the F22A6 found in the 92-93 EX. Modifications would be needed to make it work, which leaves room for error. No matter how hard you try, you'll never make a frankenstein motor as reliable as a stock motor.

Rebuilding the F22A with stronger parts and a good cam/valvetrain setup would be much more beneficial than a SOHC VTEC headswap.

Rebuilding the H22 is a very good idea though be aware that it has FRM sleeves, which means your selection for aftermarket pistons is limited. You're probably better off getting the block resleeved anyway... which means you can run pretty much any aftermarket forged piston you want. A ground-up rebuild leaves your options open... crazy all-motor or high boost turbo. You can't go wrong either way!