H22a or F20b

[MikeW]

Is the f20b a dohc vtec? if it is, then arent both it and the h22's dohc vtec with 190hp? whats the diff between the two..why get one instead of the other? is it mounting positions, bolt-in factors..??

[MikeW]

Yea..theyre both dohc vtec...the only diff is the f20b is lesser torque and displacement but a higher compression. So is it mounting issues or what???

[NAiL05]

1. Displacement is different
2. F20B is OBD2
3. USDM H22A 190, JDM h22A has 200, F20B has 200? or something like that, JDM H22A Type S has like 220, and the euro R H22A7? i think has like 220 also i think.
4. SHould be the same bolt in
5. F20B compression Ratio is different

[MikeW]

ok..compression rate for the f20 is like 11.0:1 and the h22 is i think 10.6:1...so will those tiny differences in numbers mean alot in the long run or what?? if theyre both about equal then i may have truly found myself in a quandry...

[f22a4accord]

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ight=h22a+f20b

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ight=h22a+f20b

[MikeW]

thanks! i thought i remember reading that...i wanna be different and save $$ as well, but like most ppl said the h22 may be over played but i think its the safest way to go...thanks man. its just the $$ issue that made me think

[starkrice]

I have A F20B and "I LOVE MY F20B" the only thing diff is the drivers side mount braket is diff so you have to use a H22 mount braket

[h22sparkle]

I would just go with the h22 the basemodel. Trust me on this and youll have more torque than the f20. Remember hondas lack torque and horsepower the horsepower and torque you want to get as much as you can reliably and safely. The f20b isnt worth it I mean sure it has higher compression its slightly rare but....I would just go with the base atleast you get more toque to lug around especially in our chasis we are gonna need all the torque and power we can get.

[Dv8]

^^ h22 type-s ^^

Better quality then normal h22, more power, and its got a shiny red valve cover.

f20s spin up faster, are lighter, and are typically better for race track applications. For street use they are like most other Honda engines; torque lacking.

IMO, with my 2 door I would buy an f20 and do a super amazing NA build, if I had a 4 door or a wag I'd do an h22 type S. Just my .02c.

[mondojackal]

for the $4000 price tag, that extra 20hp can easily be had on an h22a that costs only $2500

[h22sparkle]

$4000 pricetag>???? hmm thats odd my type s didnt cost me $4000 and i didn get it with the tranny but i got it with the ecu and everything for 1,500 without the tranny. I would have costed 3,00 for the whole type s swap but i didnt need the tranny. T hose 20 extra horses was it for me

[rickyduckworth]

$4000 pricetag>???? hmm thats odd my type s didnt cost me $4000 and i didn get it with the tranny but i got it with the ecu and everything for 1,500 without the tranny. I would have costed 3,00 for the whole type s swap but i didnt need the tranny. T hose 20 extra horses was it for me

that's possible (unlikely, but deals pop up all over, they shouldn't be expected though), but how are you sure you have a type s?

there should be tons of differences, different head stamps, different oem header, etc..........did you check that out or what

mainly curious, i like those motors, but there are a lot of fakes just like the f20b gets passed off as a manual f20b (auto f20b has 180hp)

[MikeW]

well, i got a place here in town thatll do a complete h22 swap, p/l for $3000. The guy told me the engine would cost like 2200 and the labor woul dbe 800..im thinking i get the motor off hmotorsonline.com and take it to them and just have them do the labor, but then it wouldnt be covered under their warranties and they may charge for any extra parts i dont have...

[NAiL05]

well, i got a place here in town thatll do a complete h22 swap, p/l for $3000. The guy told me the engine would cost like 2200 and the labor woul dbe 800..im thinking i get the motor off hmotorsonline.com and take it to them and just have them do the labor, but then it wouldnt be covered under their warranties and they may charge for any extra parts i dont have...

Order the motor from HMO install the seals and random stuff you know HOW to install yourself then tell them to install.

[MikeW]

Well, seals and shit are cheap, I'm talking like wiring harnesses and any misc. parts they may need that they cant use form my cb or that i didnt get with the motor...