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Stock shocks and lowering springs. why is it bad?

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    Stock shocks and lowering springs. why is it bad?

    i keep seeing people saying that this setup is bad. it makes sense. but why? why exactly is it bad to lower your car on stock shocks? what about other things like lowering on cheaper shocks like gr2s or tokico blues? why are cheap springs bad? is it just because they could snap?

    i dont mean to offend anyone but it seems like there are a lot of know it alls spouting off about suspension stuff but nobody explains the reasons behind it. can someone enlighten me please?
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    It's physics. The stock shock can't handle the forces lowering springs put on them and they eventually blow their seals.

    Cheap shocks will blow their seals as well

    Cheap springs supposedly have cheaper metal than name brand springs. They could break or be out of tolerance.

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      #3
      Look for springs that are ISO certified and use a sport style shock or strut that is meant for lowered springs if you have any questions ask here or call the manufacture I had a front spring crack on one coil on my cb7 I replaced with Moog OEM style replacements I don't need to lower my car as I usually keep a big girl or two in my car
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        Yes, the valving of the shock absorbers should be designed to match the spring rate, In your standard suspension they use relatively soft springs and valve rates for passenger comfort and to allow good weight transfer under braking.

        Lowering springs however usually have stiffer spring rate than than your standard springs to allow for better cornering performance and less suspension travel.
        So now you've got stiff springs and soft shocks which as somebody else said can ruin the shock absorbers.

        Generally speaking "sport" shocks have stiffer valving and are sometimes shorter stroke than standard ones to accomodate for the increaced spring rates.

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          #5
          like the first reply said, stock shocks are designed to have "X" amount of travel. when you take away that amount and replace it with something much smaller from the smaller more stiff spring you change the shocks inteded purpose, one they ride like shit and two they blow out. chance r they are already blown out anyways.

          in the Gulf we have a rule, if you come across a shakle that says CHINA on it throw it over the side. china buys americas scrap metal, melts it down and makes new shit out of it. old, rusty, crappy metal is recycled into stuff like springs. ISO, international standards organization. if you see stuff made with this stamp on it you can almost rest assured its of good quality from the rigerous inspections they must pass on quality control.

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            Not to mention it places the shock body in the wrong area of operation. This where extended top hats come into play. But sport shocks will be preferable. You can use OEM shocks but they just won't last the typical 60,000 miles they are rated for. More like 1-2 years max.
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              Originally posted by AccRod91ex View Post
              Not to mention it places the shock body in the wrong area of operation. This where extended top hats come into play. But sport shocks will be preferable. You can use OEM shocks but they just won't last the typical 60,000 miles they are rated for. More like 1-2 years max.
              are you saying stock shocks are good for 1-2 years when lowered? I don't think so.

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                Originally posted by Dani Filth View Post
                are you saying stock shocks are good for 1-2 years when lowered? I don't think so.
                Yea its more like "not blown". You will still be bouncing all over the place and banging into bumpstops.


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                  #9
                  yeah theres definitely a big difference there! seems to me that most people just see not blown as being still good. suspensions are blown or not blown. soft or stiff. beyond that people have no understanding of how things work

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                    #10
                    One of the true situations where "you get what you pay for"..

                    Coming from one whos ridden blown stock struts, on "ebay" no name springs, with NO bumpstops.. Don't know what I was thinking .. and I've done Gr2s on those no name shocks.. again for reasons that escape me. I'll just say they dont last (someone said 1-2 years, I'd give it 2 weeks - but no that familiar with many setups on CBs as I haven't personally chosen to replace the stockies yet..)

                    A good setup like those recommended by the veterans on this site are tested and proven (as have been stickied)

                    Don't be cheap or impatient like me! Do it right the first time round

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