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Help please. possible Blown HG?

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    Help please. possible Blown HG?

    ok so here in texas we recently had icemageddon and two days ago when i went to start my car it idled very poorly and felt like it was maybe running on three cylinders after a minute or so it went back to normal and drove ok. now it does this with every bone cold start. other issues that have developed are; im going through coolant rather fast (no visible leaks), funny smell when sitting still ( i have an exhaust leak below the car near driver seat so i smell that), and i cannot rev her high at all or she starts to misfire and occasional backfire badly.

    all these things have led me to believe that i might have blown the HG im going to check the compression here later today after it warms up a bit and in the even i do have to change it.. could i save me some time and leave the intake manifold bolted to the head when removing it? im a very big guy and cant reach lower nuts well.

    i need this issue resolved fast as shes my daily driver and i drive for a living atm.

    #2
    Its hard saying man. Your timing could've skipped a tooth and that would explain the running like shit, and that does happen sometimes when its wicked cold out.


    The fluid consumption though-thats an indication you have a bad gasket. Look for white shit on the dipstick and underside of the oil cap or oil in the coolant to confirm the gasket is leaking.

    Can you do a leak down or compression test?
    Originally posted by wed3k
    im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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      #3
      i have a compression tester im abotu to go out and test in a few. and ill look on the oil cap. dipstick looks and smells like regular oil

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        #4
        Originally posted by TransworldCB7 View Post
        i have a compression tester im abotu to go out and test in a few. and ill look on the oil cap. dipstick looks and smells like regular oil
        It usually takes a while for the white to start showing itself. Do a compression test, that'll tell you a bunch.
        Originally posted by wed3k
        im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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          #5
          ok so good news and bad news. good news is. headgasket isnt blown. Bad news is head gasket isnt blown lol. compression was 180+ across the board. its good in a way i dont have to spend money on all that crap but im still perplexed about it running bad. could it be the distributor?

          i took off the cap and it had a little oil in it and when i got the rotor off it looked like part of the metal was burned? not sure if its dried up oil but its darker than the rest of it and worn slightly. should i get a new cap n rotor and go from there?

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            #6
            Originally posted by TransworldCB7 View Post
            ok so here in texas we recently had icemageddon and two days ago when i went to start my car it idled very poorly and felt like it was maybe running on three cylinders after a minute or so it went back to normal and drove ok. now it does this with every bone cold start. other issues that have developed are; im going through coolant rather fast (no visible leaks), funny smell when sitting still ( i have an exhaust leak below the car near driver seat so i smell that), and i cannot rev her high at all or she starts to misfire and occasional backfire badly.

            all these things have led me to believe that i might have blown the HG im going to check the compression here later today after it warms up a bit and in the even i do have to change it.. could i save me some time and leave the intake manifold bolted to the head when removing it? im a very big guy and cant reach lower nuts well.

            i need this issue resolved fast as shes my daily driver and i drive for a living atm.


            i took off the cap and it had a little oil in it and when i got the rotor off it looked like part of the metal was burned? not sure if its dried up oil but its darker than the rest of it and worn slightly. should i get a new cap n rotor and go from there?
            the oil may be do to a bad seal that is known to fail . just replace it and yes get a new cap and roter .


            try this start the car with rad cap off . then let it warm up and watch for bubbles in the rad . also place a flatten card box under car as this will help with where the leak is if it's leaking out side the engine . my bet is the the engine does have a blown head gasket but only sucks the coolant in when the engine is warm . try the compression tester with a warm engine as this will make every thing expand further opening the trouble spot tell it's cooled down .

            has the car ever over heated ? if so you might have warped the head .
            Last edited by Accord problems; 12-12-2013, 04:28 PM.
            this was put together by evil_demon_01 . You can also fined all this and more by him in the Common Beginner Technical Info can be found in here. PLEASE READ HERE FIRST

            Not this one though.1990 to 1993 accord fuel psi .

            Car safety checks

            Diagnose a Check Engine Light (also S/D4 transmission error codes)
            How to Set Base Idle Properly (F22ax, F22bx)
            Cheapest Suspension Setup to Lower Your CB7

            Fluid Capacities

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              #7
              it has gotten warmer than normal but never got to the red zone. i really hope i dont have a warped head. and the seal your talking abotu is the one around the end of it right

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                #8
                yes it's the ring on the back side . as for it not showing much warmer than normal where you driving it then came to a stop and it slowly rise ? if so then you may have done some damage or not . with the temp sensor being in front of the engine constantly being cooled by air coming in from the front thus giving a falls reading. also i just remembered that the water pump have whats called a weep hole. when they go bad they will leak coolant from that hole .
                Last edited by Accord problems; 12-12-2013, 07:04 PM.
                this was put together by evil_demon_01 . You can also fined all this and more by him in the Common Beginner Technical Info can be found in here. PLEASE READ HERE FIRST

                Not this one though.1990 to 1993 accord fuel psi .

                Car safety checks

                Diagnose a Check Engine Light (also S/D4 transmission error codes)
                How to Set Base Idle Properly (F22ax, F22bx)
                Cheapest Suspension Setup to Lower Your CB7

                Fluid Capacities

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                  #9
                  Does your heater air smell like coolant? If your heater core is leaking, that could be where your coolant is going. I'm dealing with that right now and it usually becomes more apparent when it is cold outside.

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                    #10
                    i would have to take timing cover off to look at the pump though wouldnt i? @oni no it does not smell like coolant what so ever an d the heat put off rivals a space heater. very hot. much heat. wow.

                    ok so everything back together new cap and rotor and runs the same maybe a little less hesitant when gasing it but i havent gotten on her at all. i did make some way and found it to be Cylinder 3 thats dead on a cold start. ( pull wire no change in performance) then when the engine runs like normal i pull the wire and it runs shittier so im thinking faulty ignition coil or possibly failing injector?

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                      #11
                      when the engine is cold see if the plug wire gets power . if so then it's you you have bad spark plugs . pull them out and post pics of them and tell use what they smell like .
                      this was put together by evil_demon_01 . You can also fined all this and more by him in the Common Beginner Technical Info can be found in here. PLEASE READ HERE FIRST

                      Not this one though.1990 to 1993 accord fuel psi .

                      Car safety checks

                      Diagnose a Check Engine Light (also S/D4 transmission error codes)
                      How to Set Base Idle Properly (F22ax, F22bx)
                      Cheapest Suspension Setup to Lower Your CB7

                      Fluid Capacities

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                        #12
                        sorry for late update. happy new year!.

                        anyway so about a week ago i went ahead and replaced spark plugs, wires, cap , and rotor. car is a little more responsive now but it still occasionally will act up by doing the 3 cylinder start up. is it possible the injector is showing early signs of failing? past couple days its been fine but it still does it occasionally.

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                          #13
                          too help eliminate the fuel injector you could try disconnecting it like you did the spark plug.
                          also with the intermittent missing it also could be your ignitor inside of your distributor, this can cause stutter, sputter ,and hesitation.That depending on the condition could be intermittent.
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                            #14
                            well hello there mr. Transworldcb7. now i know why you have been distant. but if it comes to the need and you dont have a spare injector to use dont forget to call me. i will gladly let you borrow one of my spares. glad you tracked down most of your issues man.

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                              #15
                              Post is a year old this was with the f22a not the f22b. That has its own thread

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