F22a6 Questions

[1slw4dr]

Alright so I used to follow this forum a lot when I dated a girl with an H22 swapped CB7. Well during that time I decided on a H swap for my 90 Integra. Finally deciding to stay NA and what motor to use I started making lists of parts and money needed. Well in the end I decided on H2B. Now I have decided on F2B. Originally planning to use an F20b I have decided I rather use a single cam. Then here is where my back story gets to current . . .

From what I have been researching all morning the F22a6 is the best way to go. Also I gathered that all F22 SOHC run iron sleeves. I'm not sure if I will use my LS trans or my GSR trans when doing this swap. I like the F22 because it's cheap and abundant in the scrap yards near me. Plus if I decide boost your site has informed me they handle it fairly well.

Well I guess now that you know my plans and what not is there anything I am missing? Parts I should look into buying? What header is recommended because everyone seems to be bashing Bisi and until today I thought he was a god among you guys. Well thanks for any help guys. Appreciate it.

[Jarrett]

Whoever told you that these engines handle boost well lied to you. They have compression and iron sleeves, sure. But the pistons themselves are extremely weak and brittle. It's not a matter of if ring lands crack, it's when. If I were you I'd grab a couple of engines and build one. You're going to need it anyway.

[1slw4dr]

Whoever told you that these engines handle boost well lied to you. They have compression and iron sleeves, sure. But the pistons themselves are extremely weak and brittle. It's not a matter of if ring lands crack, it's when. If I were you I'd grab a couple of engines and build one. You're going to need it anyway.

Alright well that's why I'm asking. Ok well that one is out of the way anything else? I'm rather anti boost honestly. If I need to even the field I usual just hook up the spray and call it a day.

[Joey GT-R]

Well I guess now that you know my plans and what not is there anything I am missing? Parts I should look into buying? What header is recommended because everyone seems to be bashing Bisi and until today I thought he was a god among you guys. Well thanks for any help guys. Appreciate it.

The Bisimoto F22A Header is still the best header on the market today for the engine. Bisi is in a "love em or hate em" stage right now, all that aside, you won't find a better off the shelf item. From his recent visits he is working on better quality control of the headers themselves, so the unit you recieve should be fine.

I'm rather anti boost honestly. If I need to even the field I usual just hook up the spray and call it a day.

Then I suggest you grab a direct port kit, and maybe the Bisimoto 2.3 cam, as well as I guess a set of 10.5:1 or 12:1 piston/rod combo and call it a day. When you get over 30 posts perhaps create a MR thread. I always thought about doing a JDM front DC with an F22A swap for kicks.

[1slw4dr]

The Bisimoto F22A Header is still the best header on the market today for the engine. Bisi is in a "love em or hate em" stage right now, all that aside, you won't find a better off the shelf item. From his recent visits he is working on better quality control of the headers themselves, so the unit you recieve should be fine.

Alright well at the moment that header is out of my budget so I'll revisit that issue when time comes.

Then I suggest you grab a direct port kit, and maybe the Bisimoto 2.3 cam, as well as I guess a set of 10.5:1 or 12:1 piston/rod combo and call it a day. When you get over 30 posts perhaps create a MR thread. I always thought about doing a JDM front DC with an F22A swap for kicks.

As for building goes pistons/rods and all the machine work entailed is way out of my price range and I just don't trust myself to do it. Head work is fairly simple but block work with all the measurements and clearances if I got something wrong I'd throw it all out. Is using a stock block with a cammed head really unrealistic for my goals? Also what's an MR thread? I used to have shit ton of posts on this site but for what ever reason I had to remake the account.

[Sordz]

What motor is in the car now? For the cost of the adapter needed to run a B-series tranny why not just put some pistons and rods in your current motor? I would think that would be better than trying to spray or boost a stock f22. Or get a gsr swap? More power to you if you want to use the f22 though, being different is always fun. I would go with a gsr transmission with f22 btw.

[1slw4dr]

What motor is in the car now? For the cost of the adapter needed to run a B-series tranny why not just put some pistons and rods in your current motor? I would think that would be better than trying to spray or boost a stock f22. Or get a gsr swap? More power to you if you want to use the f22 though, being different is always fun. I would go with a gsr transmission with f22 btw.

The adapter is 675 and the motor only costing me 100. I was originally just going to drop in an F20b and call it a day with a good tune but I'm bored and thought I give a single slammer a try.

[203CB7TUNER]

Man
From my experience .
If ur not coming near death everynight..
Then take all the time u have...
Do it right..

[1slw4dr]

Man
From my experience .
If ur not coming near death everynight..
Then take all the time u have...
Do it right..

That's why I don't want to tear into the block. I'm no good at that and the time and money to do it seems like a waste to me. I'm not looking to win a whole bunch of races or break records. Just thinking of doing something a little on the strange side and maybe put down a few decent passes. If it doesn't turn out like I want then I'll go pick up the F20b like originally planned but with having to buy a motor for my daily Prelude it's cutting into my fun car funds. This is all something I just thought of this morning since I can get the motor for $100. just figured this would be the best forum to turn to for advice on stock block tips and advice.

[Joey GT-R]

Alright well at the moment that header is out of my budget so I'll revisit that issue when time comes.



As for building goes pistons/rods and all the machine work entailed is way out of my price range and I just don't trust myself to do it. Head work is fairly simple but block work with all the measurements and clearances if I got something wrong I'd throw it all out. Is using a stock block with a cammed head really unrealistic for my goals? Also what's an MR thread? I used to have shit ton of posts on this site but for what ever reason I had to remake the account.

I suggest you save then for the necessary parts. The F22A6 has roughly the same amount of wtq as a B16A, however with no horsepower you won't be going terribly fast after a while.

As far as goals, you didn't mention any, so I don't know what you're shooting for. I will say that 20 year old pistons won't hold up to any amounts of boost or spray for too long. Or are you planning to just blow bottom end after bottom end you find in the junkyards?

MR stands for Member's Ride. While your car is not a CB7, we have a section for rides that differ from the main community.


What is your old account? I certainly hope you're not trying to bypass a ban....

[1slw4dr]

I suggest you save then for the necessary parts. The F22A6 has roughly the same amount of wtq as a B16A, however with no horsepower you won't be going terribly fast after a while.

As far as goals, you didn't mention any, so I don't know what you're shooting for. I will say that 20 year old pistons won't hold up to any amounts of boost or spray for too long. Or are you planning to just blow bottom end after bottom end you find in the junkyards?

MR stands for Member's Ride. While your car is not a CB7, we have a section for rides that differ from the main community.


What is your old account? I certainly hope you're not trying to bypass a ban....

I wouldn't imagine I would be band. I haven't used the account in a long time so I'm just assuming they closed it due to inactivity because I used the exact same name I was using before to make it lol I don't really have any goal for it. Original goal was to do an F20b since stock it's 11:1 and DOHC VTEC to take on K series swaps but a buddy and I the other night thought it be funny to use a single cam after our buddies F22 accord was beating on some LS Integras

[Joey GT-R]

I ran your IP so I don't believe you were ever banned, but to my knowledge we don't delete any accounts. Deev may say otherwise.

If you want to beat K swaps. You're most likely going to have to build the bottom end. If not you may want to re-consider the swap; perhaps find an H23A1 in the least. Look at the numbers in my sig, that beats stock and VERY mild K swaps, but not by much(If I had an H22A transmission it probably would be alot easier). Granted the Integra is a little lighter, a loss of 50whp or so isn't going to cut it.

[1slw4dr]

I ran your IP so I don't believe you were ever banned, but to my knowledge we don't delete any accounts. Deev may say otherwise.

If you want to beat K swaps. You're most likely going to have to build the bottom end. If not you may want to re-consider the swap; perhaps find an H23A1 in the least. Look at the numbers in my sig, that beats stock and VERY mild K swaps, but not by much(If I had an H22A transmission it probably would be alot easier). Granted the Integra is a little lighter, a loss of 50whp or so isn't going to cut it.

O no doubt. I don't plan on going up against em with an F22a. This is all just for shits and giggles at the moment but in the end who knows I might end up with an F20b like originally planned. I appreciate all the input. All the Prelude forums I'm on with my 94 is useless.

[mugencivic4dr]

the whole purpose of the F/H2B is (imo) so you can use a b-series tranny for their shorter gears. an LS tranny would defeat the purpose of the swap. I personally would say to use the GSR tranny versus the LS tranny since it has shorter gears (third gear mainly).

The Bisimoto F22A Header is still the best header on the market today for the engine.

for the price of the header and the gains you get compared to other headers, you're better off getting a "normal" header. I think people buy this header more because of the loops than for the actual performance.

[Joey GT-R]

Parts that make a little bit more power are always going to cost more, that's the nature of the beast. If he wants to squeeze as much power N/A as he wants, it's probably his best option. IMHO this header is more designed for fully built engines and not as a "casual bolton".

But in anycase, this isn't going to turn into a discussion purely on the header, he can do his own research and digging; which from what I can see he is purely capable of.