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    Cheap Sleeves?

    Was wondering if it would be worth it to get ebay coilovers. I could keep my stock suspension if they get f**ked and aren't too much money. If anyone has experience with these, please tell me. There are common no names that are around $60, and then these Megans: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Megan-Racing...de9ebc&vxp=mtr . I wouldn't want to spend more than $150, I would just save up for struts and springs. Tell me what you think..
    Originally posted by Quashish
    hahaha

    noobs be like where to be buying hella flush yo?

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    Originally posted by honda2014 View Post
    Was wondering if it would be worth it to get ebay coilovers. I could keep my stock suspension if they get f**ked and aren't too much money. If anyone has experience with these, please tell me. There are common no names that are around $60, and then these Megans: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Megan-Racing...de9ebc&vxp=mtr . I wouldn't want to spend more than $150, I would just save up for struts and springs. Tell me what you think..
    Why not save up for proper coilovers, or for a proper spring/strut combo?

    I still don't understand why people find the cheapest shit, then ask if anyone has experience with it.

    Also - How are you going to "Keep your stock suspension" when these don't come with shocks?
    The Stock shocks will be stuffed if you put sleeves on.


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      #3
      Cheap coilover sleeves will ride like shit, and some may even break on you. If you use them with your old stock shocks, they'll even be dangerous.

      Save up for some properly matched springs and shocks. The ride will be better, and it will be much safer. Be aware that anything with a high enough spring rate, or a drop lower than roughly 1.5", will require something much better than a stock replacement shock... mainly Koni Yellows, Tokico Illuminas, or custom-valved Bilsteins.


      Suspension is something you never want to cheap out on. If it fails, you crash. At best, you'll cause expensive damage to your own car, or someone else's property. At worst, you'll cause serious harm to yourself and/or others. Not worth saving a couple hundred bucks.






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        #4
        I completely agree with the two other replies. Don't go for cheap suspension components. Save your money. An aftermarket spring/strut combo can cost as much as the lower-end and reputable full coilovers. So, save your money for a full set of coilovers or a new spring strut combo.
        Last edited by oni_cb7; 11-21-2012, 06:03 PM. Reason: I did try to add the comparison of cost for aftermarket springs/struts vs. coilovers which had not been mentioned. I'm sorry.

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          Generally, making a post that does nothing but repeat what others have already said is viewed as post-whoring. Not a good idea to do that with the replies of staff members. Just a friendly warning.






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            #6
            While MEGAN makes some nice control arms, I don't know if they are a good brand for coilovers for CB7s. You aren't trying to put these on stock struts are you? To be honest you would be better off investing in nice struts first and then peice the suspension together part by part being careful not to select random or cheap components. It is important that your springs and struts are matched in a pair.

            If you want to do it right, get all of the components needed together first for the suspension, then get a new set of ball joints and other wear items, then throw it all on at once replacing the whole 9 yards. Chances are they are still original equipment and are far beyond safe at this point. When I just recently did this I replaced any and all parts that could wear out, upgraded bushings, installed camber kits/shims, and installed H&R sport cup kit. In hindsight I wish I would have done the wheel bearings at the same time as well, but I did them later. Pick a long weekend to do it when you have plenty of time and a little cash, incase you run into rusted bolts or need other parts.

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              #7
              ive had 4 sets of ebay coilovers. slams the shit out of your car. the last set i had, actually rode decent on stock struts. only 1 spring ever broke and i dont know how.
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                #8
                "riding decent" on stock shocks simply means you hadn't crashed. Those shocks were probably fully blown.






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                  #9
                  seriously, I mean hell, both my stock rear shocks were blown. I didn't realize it until I re did my suspension though. Mostly because its pretty much my first car and I never sat in the back. I would never trust suspension parts from ebay.

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                    #10
                    That's the thing... most people on here don't know what a blown suspension feels like until it's too late. Or they don't realize how dangerous it is.






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                      #11
                      With upcoming Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales coming, consider buying your parts then.

                      JHPUSA will have Function & Form or BLOX coilovers for $585 shipped.

                      If you want a lowering spring and shock combo, King Motorsports had 20% off and free shipping last year. So that would be about $400 for Koni Yellows or $250 for Koni Str.t (orange). Springs can set you back anywhere from $175-$200, on sale.

                      Don't waste your money on coilover sleeves and keeping stock shocks. Those shocks (assuming you have a CB7) are likely 20 years old! Even if you weren't lowering your car, you'd probably need to replace them anyway.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Quashish View Post
                        seriously, I mean hell, both my stock rear shocks were blown. I didn't realize it until I re did my suspension though. Mostly because its pretty much my first car and I never sat in the back. I would never trust suspension parts from ebay.
                        What parts should I trust? What should I definitely stay away from. I already have a good idea, just want to hear doffed want opinions. My neighbor, who's a mechanic, said if probably be fine with eBay springs. Only reason I asked. Before I talked about it with him, I followed the "right way" which I had read about extensively. What's the damage a blown strut/ shock can do?
                        Originally posted by Quashish
                        hahaha

                        noobs be like where to be buying hella flush yo?

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                          #13
                          Oh boy. I would highly reccomend against getting those. Back in my days of wanting more than what my budget could afford I bought and installed a set very similar to those.

                          The Pros:

                          They adjust ride height. Yes they do, as well as cut springs and/or heavily weighted female affiliates.

                          Now for the Cons:

                          The ride will be horrible. The spring is much shorter, to allow for greater adjustability. However the spring is still doing its job of supporting the vehicle weight. To compensate for this the spring rate is very high, which means the ride is harsh.

                          They are dangerous. The quality of the pieces is laughable. By the pics, I cant imagine that set would be any better. They are essentially a universal kit, you stuff them in place of the stock springs and they "sort of" fit. They generally give you a whole cute baggy full of different sized o-rings so you can center the coilovers on any shock design. I also once had one of the collars slip and strip out after hitting a bump, which majorly changed my alignment angle. Not good.

                          When you hit a large bump or get airborne, your in trouble. You see the springs are very short, and the travel on your stock shocks is much longer. When for instance, your car is lifted of a service lift, the shocks actually extend far further than what the spring can push back. Your coilover assemblies will come loose, and dangle around the shock shaft loosely. When the car is put back down, they often jam up or dont settle back in right. A good quality lowering spring will often use "dead coils", essentially coils collapse and fill space during normal driving, but while air borne or lifted up they expand out and maintain pressure on the strut assembly to keep the shock and spring assembly together.

                          I eventually threw my ebay "coilovers" in the trash, and bought a nice set of Neuspeed lowering race springs and some new shocks. Still not a high end set up by any means, but worlds better than the cheapies. The ride is very nice for as low as it is, and best of all it is safe. No more clunking!
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                            #14
                            Been there, done that. Waste of 50 bucks!! Waste of time and effort, they were in for about 3-4 days, rode like shit, took them out and threw them out, I saved 1 of the springs, holds my hood up at car shows now. Buy the real stuff and use that 50 towards your alignment after your real suspension is in. Take into consideration what your ride is mainly used for.

                            My Koni Yellows and Tein S-Tech Springs was right for me, a little bit more than 50 bucks, alot more, but well worth it.

                            Do it right, or not at all. Read Motto below..... good luck!
                            Last edited by DanCan; 11-21-2012, 11:10 PM.

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