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    cb7>>>96vtec ????

    specs:
    92 ex
    5 speed
    f22a6 po6 ecu
    f22b1 vtec long block
    stock f22a6 harness.

    I lost all spark so i replaced everything inside my dizzy.(94 dizzy)
    still no spark.
    My only questionable issues is my ECU.
    i insert the key, turn to II. lights are on check engine light is on, blinks once off, then comes back on.
    Does this indicate a blown ecu?
    Radio still works, lights, windows, locks, etc...
    Could this be the culprit of my no spark issue?
    My ECU fuse was blown so i replaced it, it still pulls codes:
    6 ECT - water temperature sensor
    10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
    14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve

    Going to buy a new ECU anyways so i can wire vtec up.
    I know i was a newb in my other posts but this was my first swap, i knew nothing about cars except how to handle them.

    Any input or questions welcome, my cb's been down to long and im fienin to crack that V wide open
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    #2
    Originally posted by Antwon619 View Post
    specs:
    92 ex
    5 speed
    f22a6 po6 ecu
    f22b1 vtec long block
    stock f22a6 harness.

    I lost all spark so i replaced everything inside my dizzy.(94 dizzy)
    still no spark.
    My only questionable issues is my ECU.
    i insert the key, turn to II. lights are on check engine light is on, blinks once off, then comes back on.
    Does this indicate a blown ecu?
    Radio still works, lights, windows, locks, etc...
    Could this be the culprit of my no spark issue?
    My ECU fuse was blown so i replaced it, it still pulls codes:
    6 ECT - water temperature sensor
    10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
    14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve

    Going to buy a new ECU anyways so i can wire vtec up.
    I know i was a newb in my other posts but this was my first swap, i knew nothing about cars except how to handle them.

    Any input or questions welcome, my cb's been down to long and im fienin to crack that V wide open
    Did you do a obd2 to obd1 conversion?

    Water temp sensor I believe can stop the car from running, but you are talking about wiring up vtec and shit which makes me think this wasn't swapped correctly from square one.

    Was the f22b1 converted to obd1?
    Originally posted by wed3k
    im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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      #3
      I thought this was going to be about how you beat a 96 accord

      C-3PO's MRT USDM yo!

      then i see my baby, suddenly I'm not crazy,
      It all makes sense when i look into her eyes

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        #4
        Originally posted by toycar View Post
        Did you do a obd2 to obd1 conversion?

        Water temp sensor I believe can stop the car from running, but you are talking about wiring up vtec and shit which makes me think this wasn't swapped correctly from square one.

        Was the f22b1 converted to obd1?
        I'm not sure if any mods had to be made to convert it to obd1?, but everything from my original harness plugged right in with no issues except for maybe 2 or 3 plugs not going anywhere.
        I have not attempted to wire vtec up yet due to the car not even starting yet. Other than that all the sensors are plugged in right. I ran through my harness several times making sure everything was in tip top shape. All grounds are to a bare metal surface and coordinate with where they are supposed to be. 2 weeks prior to me dropping in the block i was getting spark, then the car sat there for a week and in an attempt to start it i realized there was no spark, i changed the ECU fuse and still nothing.

        If you would like pics or a video for any purposes ill be more than happy to upload.

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          #5
          i know a guy that did the b1 swap and he also said everything just clipped in, but his wagons running. Thats strange....

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            #6
            Perhaps a main relay issue?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Junior Smurff View Post
              i know a guy that did the b1 swap and he also said everything just clipped in, but his wagons running. Thats strange....
              Thats why i figure it could be my ECU.
              i found one for 40 so theres not much to lose here.

              Originally posted by BurtonRiderT6 View Post
              Perhaps a main relay issue?
              changed the main relay. i turn the key, check engine light is on, then the click, check engine light off then right back on.

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                #8
                ok so i called autozone and to my luck there was someone there who knew ALOT about hondas.

                As in my previous post which someone said i did not need...

                ^^^ this is the crank sensor. no spark if this isnt plugged in says autozone man >_<

                this is what i was told i needed.
                obd2 engine harness - ebay $149
                96 accord ecu- ebay $60
                jumper harness- ebay $30

                is there anyway to convert this plug? he said that my car doesnt have a crank sensor on the ecu. what should i do?

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                  #9
                  You don't need that plugged in and you don't need an OBD2 harness. There's a reason he works at Autozone and not a good store. You don't have an ECU that looks for that sensor so how could it possibly need it to run? It's just dead weight.

                  I know you probably don't like me continuing to post in all of the threads you make here and on H-T but I really am trying to help you. Forgive the structure of my questions but I don't know what you know and I suspect it's not a lot.

                  In your original post you say you have a P06 ECU. You should have a PT6 ECU in a 1992 EX.

                  I would go to a junkyard and get two things. Get a POA ECU from a 1994-1995 Accord(get one appropriate for your transmission as well). I would also get an engine harness for a 1992-1993 Accord since you cut your current one at the distributor plugs. If they have a 1992-1993 external coil distributor then grab it too. Switch pins A6 and A11 on your ECU harness plugs and add the appropriate VTEC wires. If you use the external coil F22A distributor with this setup then this car will run.
                  My Members' Ride Thread - It's a marathon build, not a sprint. But keep me honest on the update frequency!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jarrett View Post
                    You don't need that plugged in and you don't need an OBD2 harness. There's a reason he works at Autozone and not a good store. You don't have an ECU that looks for that sensor so how could it possibly need it to run? It's just dead weight.

                    I know you probably don't like me continuing to post in all of the threads you make here and on H-T but I really am trying to help you. Forgive the structure of my questions but I don't know what you know and I suspect it's not a lot.

                    In your original post you say you have a P06 ECU. You should have a PT6 ECU in a 1992 EX.

                    I would go to a junkyard and get two things. Get a POA ECU from a 1994-1995 Accord(get one appropriate for your transmission as well). I would also get an engine harness for a 1992-1993 Accord since you cut your current one at the distributor plugs. If they have a 1992-1993 external coil distributor then grab it too. Switch pins A6 and A11 on your ECU harness plugs and add the appropriate VTEC wires. If you use the external coil F22A distributor with this setup then this car will run.

                    alright lets clear things up, its been a minute since ive asked a question about this swap.
                    i now have spark again and the proper ecu. im getting fuel and smokes coming from the headers (havent welded them yet). sounds like it wants to go ima probably post a video of me trying to start it so you can get a visual and some sound as to what im dealing with.

                    again to clear things up;

                    92 accord ex
                    96 obd2 f22b1 vtec
                    94 obd1 f22b1 vtec ecu
                    92 obd1 f22a6 dizzy
                    f22a6 tranny 5speed

                    ive been told this dizzy will work, then i was told to get an obd1 94-95 dizzy, then i read i can gut the dizzys an make a frankenstein dizzy which will be a h23 dizzy or something like that? im pretty sure all my issues will be resolved in the dizzy. and will a 90 or 93 dizzy work?

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                      #11
                      For the last time, and do not let anyone who thinks they know what they are talking about sway this suggestion, you need a '92-'93 Accord USDM distributor. This distributor that came in your car. Assuming you haven't cut the connectors on the engine harness or the distributor this will be a plug and go operation. If it doesn't work then there's a bad component inside the distributor.

                      Switch pins A6 and A11 in the ECU wiring harness.

                      To be extra thorough you can run an oil pump from
                      an OBD1 car that doesn't use the crank positioning sensor.

                      If this doesn't work then you've got a problem elsewhere.
                      Last edited by Jarrett; 09-24-2012, 05:00 PM.
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                        #12
                        i swapped bad in the a6 ecu, NO LUCK. wouldnt having an ecu thats made for that engine more proper? at least with the 94 ecu i was getting smoke again (white).

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jarrett View Post
                          For the last time, and do not let anyone who thinks they know what they are talking about sway this suggestion, you need a '92-'93 Accord USDM ECU. This ECU came in your car. Assuming you haven't cut the connectors on the engine harness or the distributor this will be a plug and go operation. If it doesn't work then there's a bad component in the ECU.

                          Switch pins A6 and A11 in the ECU wiring harness.

                          To be extra thorough you can run an oil pump from
                          an OBD1 car that doesn't use the crank positioning sensor.

                          If this doesn't work then you've got a problem elsewhere.
                          Wait one second.....I know for a fact the A6 distributor can work with a POA ecu.

                          And why is the OP cutting the harness? this is so simple like said use your stock 92-93 harness, A6 distributor, obd1 injectors, POA ecu you need nothing else.

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                            #14
                            Crap, my bad. In my first paragraph in that last post of mine I meant to say distributor and not ECU. I don't really know why I typed that other than the fact that I'm frustrated cross-eyed because the OP still doesn't have this running.

                            Yes, the POA is what you want.

                            By cutting the harness I'm referring to the OP's previous posts here and on Honda-Tech where he was trying to match up cut wires on his distributor.
                            Last edited by Jarrett; 09-24-2012, 04:03 PM.
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                              #15
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjkO4...ature=youtu.be
                              sorry the quality came out shitty. ima just try an get my hands on a 94-95 dizzy

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