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H22 swap and now a chipped ECU ??

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    H22 swap and now a chipped ECU ??

    Is there any advantage to installing a chipped ECU in a basically stock JDM H22?
    It has a SRI, header, and an exhaust. If there is an advantage I'm not really sure what ECU to run, I am still using the IAB's and was told by someone that a P72 was the only one I could run besides my P13. I don't know enough about them so I am here asking for some help. Thanks and Be Well.
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    do what i did i got a p28 with a h22 map got 2 step and now i dont have to deal with crank sensor or egr valve oooo and u can delete that black box behind the intake mani

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      #3
      Don't listen to the idiot above.


      There's not much to be gained from a tune on a near-stock H22. The P13 runs a bit rich, so you can gain some power and MPG with a good tune... but it's not really worth the expense until you at least get a cam upgrade.
      A P28 can be used, though the P72 has controls for the IAB system (this can be added to the P28, but it is not equipped with it in stock form.)

      The ECU will need to be tuned, so unless you know a tuner, you'll have a LOT of learning to do. A "chipped ECU" is not something you just plug in and expect to be safe. Unless you know what that ECU is programmed to do, it can do serious damage to your engine.






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        #4
        Thanks for the help,I've done a lot of reading on CB7TUNER and other sites and know just enough to be dangerous. There a couple of import shops that do tuning where I live and both have good reputations so I would pick one. The P13 I have is good but I 'm thinking to get ahead of the curve and getting an ECU. I would get it tuned now for the way it is and pick up some MPG and a little power and when I get cams I can then get it tuned for the cams at that time.
        I found a P72 on line at HA motorsports http://www.hamotorsports.com/socketedp72.html for $269 ready for Hondata S300 or almost $800 with Hondata S300 I can do either one, so I am still researching until I am ready. I see EBAY ECU's but I'm not to sure about that.

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          #5
          I'd pick up a P28 from a junkyard for $50, $20 for a chipping kit, and learn how to solder. That's WAY too much money to be spending on a chipped ECU, IMO!






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            There are places that will sell a chipped/socketed ecu for $250-$300, and then tuning software can be free. Certainly won't cost as much as Hondata, even if you don't go with the free versions. Anyone worth a shit at tuning is going to be able to tune on crome, neptune etc.


            The advantages(my opinion) to Hondata is it is far less finicky, the support is equal to what you've grown to expect from Honda, and its reliable. They sell an upgraded map sensor that works particularly well with Hondata too.

            Basically, its quality stuff its just overpriced. I don't think anyone would talk shit about Hondata for any other reason than its cost.
            Originally posted by wed3k
            im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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              For someone that is just tuning a mild hobby car, anything more than a chipped ECU running one of the free/inexpensive programs is a serious waste of money. The more expensive systems (Hondata being among the cheaper of that group) are more capable, but the additional capabilities are only worthwhile in the hands of someone who can and will use them. Hondata sells more products to people who will only use 30% of the functions based on their name alone.

              Do your research, and get what you need. If you'll be getting the ECU tuned by a professional, the best thing to do is ask them what they're most comfortable working with. Most tuners have a preference, and you'll get the best results when you use software they know well.






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