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Wheel bearings? Hubs? Help me understand (Please)

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    Wheel bearings? Hubs? Help me understand (Please)

    Man, this is an endeavour I don't understand.

    I know a bearing generally helps to reduce friction. I know our cars have them. I also know when they go bad they start to make loud noises.

    What I don't understand is why do I see bearings sold as "bearing/hub assembly?" I'm not being sarcastic, I just don't understand this concept. I thought bearings needed to be pressed in? It's like when you're in school, math specifically. You learn how to do X * Y. Then on the test you see X * Y^2. If what I'm saying makes no sense, I'm trying to say I don't get it.

    I need to replace my rear wheel bearing (Passenger side). Thinking I had a good grasp of the situation I went to advanced auto parts and bought http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...RPWHELAMS_____

    Is this the right thing ? I went to a shop to get it pressed (bear with me, I thought this needed that) and the person told me: "you simply drop the axle nut[...]" and lost me from there.
    Last edited by Kamatari+; 04-27-2012, 02:38 PM.

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    #2
    Originally posted by Kamatari+ View Post
    Man, this is an endeavour I don't understand.

    I know a bearing generally helps to reduce friction. I know our cars have them. I also know when they go bad they start to make loud noises.

    What I don't understand is why do I see bearings sold as "bearing/hub assembly?" I'm not being sarcastic, I just don't understand this concept. I thought bearings needed to be pressed in? It's like when you're in school, math specifically. You learn how to do X * Y. Then on the test you see X * Y^2. If what I'm saying makes no sense, I'm trying to say I don't get it.

    I need to replace my rear wheel bearing (Passenger side). Thinking I had a good grasp of the situation I went to advanced auto parts and bought http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...RPWHELAMS_____

    Is this the right thing ?
    Thats the hub.


    This is the bearing:


    Last edited by dj_ender; 04-27-2012, 02:40 PM.
    Originally posted by Mishakol129
    Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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      #3
      Originally posted by Kamatari+ View Post
      Man, this is an endeavour I don't understand.

      I know a bearing generally helps to reduce friction. I know our cars have them. I also know when they go bad they start to make loud noises.

      What I don't understand is why do I see bearings sold as "bearing/hub assembly?" I'm not being sarcastic, I just don't understand this concept. I thought bearings needed to be pressed in? It's like when you're in school, math specifically. You learn how to do X * Y. Then on the test you see X * Y^2. If what I'm saying makes no sense, I'm trying to say I don't get it.

      I need to replace my rear wheel bearing (Passenger side). Thinking I had a good grasp of the situation I went to advanced auto parts and bought http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...RPWHELAMS_____

      Is this the right thing ? I went to a shop to get it pressed (bear with me, I thought this needed that) and the person told me: "you simply drop the axle nut[...]" and lost me from there. I'm honestly ashamed of my lack of understanding.


      The hub and bearring press together, you are correct. Some people have no access to a press though, so they also sell a replacement hub and bearring assembly already pressed together.
      Originally posted by wed3k
      im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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        #4
        Originally posted by dj_ender View Post
        Thats the hub.


        This is the bearing:


        Thank you for the clarification.

        Originally posted by toycar View Post
        The hub and bearring press together, you are correct. Some people have no access to a press though, so they also sell a replacement hub and bearring assembly already pressed together.
        Thank you as well for the clarification. So this instance would be the latter? These are pressed together already? I ask because I read / watched a lot of guides on replacing the bearing, but if it's hub/bearing together, would this make it any easier?

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          Originally posted by Kamatari+ View Post
          Thank you for the clarification.



          Thank you as well for the clarification. So this instance would be the latter? These are pressed together already? I ask because I read / watched a lot of guides on replacing the bearing, but if it's hub/bearing together, would this make it any easier?
          Some places, like Rockauto.com, will press the bearings in if you buy the bearing/hub together.
          Originally posted by Mishakol129
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            #6
            I understand your confusion. I check Ebay all the time and they put hub assembly for sale and they put a bearing picture and the price is that with the bearing. Hubs are usually more expensive. If you could buy a bearing/hub assembly then you can skip the press in the new bearing.

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              #7
              It seems like everyones given u pics of front bearings. I could be wrong, im at work and cant search it but rears are different.


              For the rears:

              http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=187448
              Last edited by Mvrik; 04-27-2012, 05:18 PM.

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                #8
                It will be much easier to install if it is already pressed together. Much like buying a shock/spring assembly pre-assembled. It's the lazy-man's way of doing it, but it's a time saver.






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                  #9
                  I wasn't even aware that you could buy rear wheel bearings separate, I thought they were all sold with the hub assembly.

                  The guy at Advanced Auto Parts was correct, you simply undo the hub nut, remove the hub and fit the new one that you posted in the link.
                  The bearing is already pressed into the hub for you, and simply bolt the hub on
                  Note - That only applies to the rear, the front bearing can only be bought separate, and will require pressing in and out of the hub assembly.



                  Also remember that you need to make sure you order the ABS or Non-ABS one, depending on if your CB has ABS or not.


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                    #10
                    If you looking to replace rotors too, might just well do a rotor over hub conversion. Much less work in the future brake jobs. I found these Bearing/hub assembly for cheap on Ebay but not sure how they work out.

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                      #11
                      if its rear disc, its already rotor over hub lol. The advanced picture is correct, you can use an ABS hub even if you dont have ABS.. Youll probably want to do them in pairs and if so you can get a set of rears for 55 bucks free shipping off the bay
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-REAR-WHEEL...28615a&vxp=mtr
                      Ive put 180 hard miles on mine so far no problems


                      and torque the rear nut to 134ft lbs. its real easy shouldnt take you long unless you get into stuck brake caliper bracket bolts *shudder* ..if you have drum brakes take pictures/dust off the chilton. good luck!

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                        #12
                        Thanks for the input, suggestions, and help guys!

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                          #13
                          Watch out for certain places though. I tried buying one from Summit and I even called to clarify that it was the entire assembly, because even the picture showed it was the entire assembly and they said yes. When I got it, it was just the bearing. Called back and they said they only sell the bearing.
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