Keep breaking axles on Driver side.

[trinistylez]

My cb is swapped from auto to manual with an h22a motor

The car is lowered. I know the shocks need replacing but I am soon going to do a new tein suspension set up next month. Finances are tight.

My problem, Everytime I take a corner hard or too fast. I damage the driver side axle. Today the boot ripped and is making a clicking sound. Before that it snapped in half. On my current axle I have already had the inner cv joint replaced and fixed with a new boot kit. The car also runs on 95 accord 2.2l axles. Could it be because the car is lowered its causing it break axles?

[deevergote]

First off... is this a CB we're talking about, or the car in your signature? If it's a CB, you should be using axles for a 90-93 Accord. Nothing else. If you have to use an axle from another car, something is wrong.

Both the H22 swap and the auto to manual swap have to be done correctly. If they are not, the engine/transmission will not sit properly in the bay, and you WILL break axles.

Did you do the swaps? If so, then at least you'll know what was done, and if it was done incorrectly. If someone else did it, then we'll have to look carefully to figure out what's not right!

For the H22 swap, a new mounting hole in the transmission needs to be tapped. Just trying to bolt it up with the Prelude mounting holes will cause it to sit improperly.
For the auto to manual conversion, the transmission mount bracket needs to be swapped for one from a manual car. The actual bracket that is welded in the engine bay is different between auto and manual. Another way to deal with this is to use a proper conversion mount, such as the one made by ExplicitSpeedPerformance (ESP). If neither of these things were done, then the engine will not sit correctly, and axles will break.

[trinistylez]

First off... is this a CB we're talking about, or the car in your signature? If it's a CB, you should be using axles for a 90-93 Accord. Nothing else. If you have to use an axle from another car, something is wrong.

Both the H22 swap and the auto to manual swap have to be done correctly. If they are not, the engine/transmission will not sit properly in the bay, and you WILL break axles.

Did you do the swaps? If so, then at least you'll know what was done, and if it was done incorrectly. If someone else did it, then we'll have to look carefully to figure out what's not right!

For the H22 swap, a new mounting hole in the transmission needs to be tapped. Just trying to bolt it up with the Prelude mounting holes will cause it to sit improperly.
For the auto to manual conversion, the transmission mount bracket needs to be swapped for one from a manual car. The actual bracket that is welded in the engine bay is different between auto and manual. Another way to deal with this is to use a proper conversion mount, such as the one made by ExplicitSpeedPerformance (ESP). If neither of these things were done, then the engine will not sit correctly, and axles will break.

I am reffering to my CB. NOT the car in my signature. I did not do the swap nor did I do the conversion. I am thinking it is time to get this engine and transmission hoisted out of there and swapped correctly, possibly a rebuild too. thanks for the info. but... I do know another user on here, Jukesbox told me that his is running off of 97 accord axles as well. But he has no problems.

[hyoslvr]

We understand you are running '97 axles but why? From what I read the 90-93 axles will work perfectly with the swap so why were '97 axles put in there? Just because one member got away with running them unless your cars are the exact same you may not be able to get away with it. I would swap the axles out before I jerked the motor and tranny out....

[Oreellyfool]

Go buy new ones at an autoparts store with a lifetime warranty for the CB. In the 9 years I have owned my CB, I have had an axles go out twice and both times Autozone replaced them with no questions asked.

[trinistylez]

We understand you are running '97 axles but why? From what I read the 90-93 axles will work perfectly with the swap so why were '97 axles put in there? Just because one member got away with running them unless your cars are the exact same you may not be able to get away with it. I would swap the axles out before I jerked the motor and tranny out....

You and I read the same thing. I spent a lot of time on the subject the first time my axle broke. i was not informed that it was running 97 accord axles. I had broken the axle, replaced it with a 93 accord axle and it snapped when we started driving, same with a second, then third one we noticed the boot stratching before we put it down so I did some research. the 97 axles are a 1.5" longer than the cb's axles. put it in, and worked like a charm, up until now. I was not mimicking another member, it was just until I met him a few days ago he mentioned his were 97 axles as well.

Go buy new ones at an autoparts store with a lifetime warranty for the CB. In the 9 years I have owned my CB, I have had an axles go out twice and both times Autozone replaced them with no questions asked.

Yeah, except for the fact that my auto store that I go to does not have them in stock, to top it off, tmw is sunday and most places/shops will be closed. so i gotta drive safe until monday afternoon. One guy sells remanned axles for $70 and $60 to install, then I need an alignment, another $60. ....money I dont have to spare.

[hyoslvr]

So what your saying is you put a '93 axle in there and it broke too? Now were getting somewhere that means its no isolated to the '97 axles. How far lowered are you? You might need to do like deev said and make sure everything in the swap was done properly. One things for sure if this is your third axle somethings wrong, Don't put another one in there without first finding the problem.

[trinistylez]

So what your saying is you put a '93 axle in there and it broke too? Now were getting somewhere that means its no isolated to the '97 axles. How far lowered are you? You might need to do like deev said and make sure everything in the swap was done properly. One things for sure if this is your third axle somethings wrong, Don't put another one in there without first finding the problem.

yes. i had put 93 axles in there, and they had broke too. They broke instantly once the wheel was turned.

You see, I am an aggressive driver, I can admit that. The first time I had broken the axle, it was a 97 axle, and it broke while I was making a u turn doing about 10km/h. I put in 93's not knowing it had a 97 in there. When I compared the axles and did the research, everything made sense. Today when I left the lot at work, I took off kind of hard coming out of my spot, (also making a left turn) and I thought I had heard some noise but I ignored it. Then on the freeway booking it at like 130km/h i feel a slight constant knocking. Pull over, I suspect the axle, take a look and the inner boot is ripped. It always breaks from the inner boot. Anyways, the car got me home, glad for that.

The car's exhaust sits about 1.25" off of the ground, thats the lowest part of the car. The upper control arms are not too far away from hitting the frame. i did not lower it this way. I actually intend to raise the car. But i wonder if its cause im too low that I am breaking axles?

this is how she currently sits http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=188017

[10k]

ok from what ive read..it sounds like the tranny bracket wasnt replaced so it makes the motor sit from the tranny side too far back towards the firewall and thats whats causing the stress on the inner part of the axles...but im not 100% sure thats the problem cause i cant see the bracket myself..so it would be better if you take a pic of the tranny side bracket..for us to see

[90blackcoupe]

Questions for you: you mentioned 97 axle driver side?

The long driveshaft?

Do you have an intermediateshaft on the driverside? Cause h22a should be running the intermediateshaft or are you just using the long driveshaft, 2 different shafts can work on this car. The long one can wor, and the short one can work this one uses the intermediateshaft

[deevergote]

Have you checked on the things I mentioned in my first response yet?

[trinistylez]

Questions for you: you mentioned 97 axle driver side?

The long driveshaft?

Do you have an intermediateshaft on the driverside? Cause h22a should be running the intermediateshaft or are you just using the long driveshaft, 2 different shafts can work on this car. The long one can wor, and the short one can work this one uses the intermediateshaft

sorry. i thought i recalled 97 axles its actually 95. I am using the intermediateshaft.

Have you checked on the things I mentioned in my first response yet?

No, not yet, as the car is in Jukesbox's shop, fuel pump is getting replaced.

ok from what ive read..it sounds like the tranny bracket wasnt replaced so it makes the motor sit from the tranny side too far back towards the firewall and thats whats causing the stress on the inner part of the axles...but im not 100% sure thats the problem cause i cant see the bracket myself..so it would be better if you take a pic of the tranny side bracket..for us to see

and yes, very good idea. I will take pics of the bracket, and maybe you guys can shoot some thought at me as to what the hell is going on cause this is starting to piss me off lol

[deevergote]

95 or 97, no difference. Still not 90-93.

[trinistylez]

95 or 97, no difference. Still not 90-93.

95 vs 97 driver side axle, there is a huge difference, yea I know still not 90-93 which is why it's not making sense to me

[deevergote]

There's a huge difference? 94-97 was all the same generation (5th), with North American models coming with the F22B1 or F22B2 throughout all 4 years in the 4 cylinder models (I'd assume nobody would even bother trying a 6 cylinder axle...)