good options or trusted brands for camber kits??

[mappyCB7]

I've been planning to lower my car for a while and I'v been saving up to get some quality suspension parts because I want to do it right, I want to do it once, and I don't want to replace it for a very long time (as long as they last basically.)

I got a good idea of what I want as far as springs/struts. What I want some feedback on is the camber kits... I never see much on this subject. It seems people either don't mention it or simply go without.

I want my wheel to be straight and my tires to last.

What are some good ones that you know of?

Mostly interested in what people have used and their experience. do you trust them?

[drew12000]

I have the anchor bolt type camber kit on the front that i bought from a company called speedoptions back in 1999. And washer trick on the rear. Dropped 2.5 all around.

Some dislike the anchors because they've failed on them. Ive used this setup since, with no issues. Besides the front uca hitting the inside of the fenders from setting the suspension to low and uca being pushed out to correct camber.

The washer trick works great also. I recommend getting longer bolts the more washers you add.

[HardInThePaint]

There are plenty of threads on camber kits. Most will tell you Ingalls or SPC and to stay away from the Ebay knockoff cheapo kits. Anchor bolt style or sliding ball joint, which every you prefer. And like Drew12K said, washers in the back work just fine. No need to spend a bunch of money on a rear kit when you can spend 10 bucks on washers and extended bolts.

Besides the front uca hitting the inside of the fenders from setting the suspension to low and uca being pushed out to correct camber.

You're going to run into that problem regardless of anchor bolt or sliding ball joint.

[P5ylance]

where should I get those bolts? I know Deev keeps mentioning not to go to like Home Depot and get some automotive grade bolts... where do I get "automotive grade bolts"? I know not of another place that sells bolts.

[mcdizzle]

where should I get those bolts? I know Deev keeps mentioning not to go to like Home Depot and get some automotive grade bolts... where do I get "automotive grade bolts"? I know not of another place that sells bolts.

napa?

[deevergote]

"Automotive grade" bolts are typically Grade 5 for most applications, and often Grade 8 for suspension applications.

Taken from boltdepot.com

Grade 5 bolts are case hardened. This means that the outside part of the bolt has been hardened but that the bolt was not heated enough to harden the inside portion. This creates a bolt that is fairly hard but not as brittle as a fully hardened bolt. Grade 5 bolts are the most common bolts found in automotive applications. Grade 5 bolts may have 3 evenly spaced radial lines on the head.

Grade 8 bolts are fully hardened. This means the bolt has been hardened all the way through. This creates a bolt that is very hard but somewhat brittle. Grade 8 bolts are more likely to snap off than bend under extreme loads. Grade 8 bolts are often found in demanding applications such as automotive suspensions. Grade 8 bolts may have 6 evenly spaced radial lines on the head.

I don't know offhand exactly what size bolt you would need for the rear, as I have yet to do it myself... but a Grade 8 bolt is what you should look for.

As for the front, I would only trust SPC or Ingalls. Nothing else. I had an experience with a "dropzone" camber kit that nearly cost me my life when it broke.
I personally prefer the anchor bolt style, since the stock ball joint isn't really supposed to be removed (Honda does not sell the joint and arm separately... they come only as one unit.) People have had no issues with removing it and running the ball joint kits, however.

[Wickit]

I believe rock auto also sells kits for the anchor bolt set-up but not sure on what brands they have. You can check there too.

[deevergote]

Man, you REALLY need to see if you can get a job working for them! You'd make a hell of an online rep. I'm not saying that in a bad way... I actually mean it.

Wow, RockAuto's camber kit is Moog... I didn't know they made camber kits. Moog parts are generally regarded as very high quality. I know nothing of their camber kit quality, but if it's as good as their ball joints have a reputation for being, then it's probably another valid option. Looks like $70... probably per side.

[Wickit]

Haha I wish I could!! That would be an awesome job, but yeah I just ordered my ball joint and didnt know if Moog was a good brand, then of course AFTER I got it I see all these commercials about them and hear good things about them

[deevergote]

I've never seen a commercial, but they're the only ball joint brand that anyone around here will fully trust, other than OEM.

[mappyCB7]

thanks guys!! I looked at rockauto and I'm leaning towards the moog front setup and I'm glad you guys mentioned the rear bolt trick as I was also looking for a rear set up. I have yet to check out boltdepot.com but I assume they have the proper bolts and washers (there's a vid on youtube somewhere that shows this being done on a cb if i remember correctly). I will also check out the ingalls and spc setups and see which one I like best/ more cost effective.

I really appreciate it guys.

[deevergote]

I know HondaFan81 did the washer trick on his car, so he'd know the correct way to do it. He doesn't halfass anything. There are companies that make rear "camber kits" that are essentially bolts and washers. You'd pay a bit more, but you'd have the parts selected for you already. I THINK (if memory serves) that Eibach has such a kit.

[RUGER 2.2L]

Just thought I would throw in the fact that the moog upper ball joint only has an adjustment range of +1/-1 degrees while the SPC and Ingalls ball joint kits have an adjustment range of +1.5/-1.5 degrees. I honestly don't know if that will make a difference but I thought I would throw it out there. I guess it depends on how low you go. Also I remember seeing somewhere that either ingalls or spc makes a ball joint kit that has a -1.5 to -3.0 adjustment range?? But I couldn't find it.

[gh0st]

I think I'm going with Moog myself. I've been trying to do all kinds of crazy research on this topic. Because I am just a few days away from buying coilovers.