engine help

[lowcb7]

So my brother bought a jdm f22b dohc a few years ago that he planned to put in his accord. Plans changed and it is now mine. I threw some wd40 in the cylinders to try and hand crank it and snapped a socket clean in half.It has been sitting in a shed in humid Miami so I fear its siezed what's 5he best way to "unsieze" I have some pb bolt blaster in the cylinders now to loosen it up. Hopefully I didn't just buy a 300 dollar paper wieght

[JBradley500]

a little transmission fluid

edit- I've read that 50% transmission fluid and 50% acetone is one of the best penetrating fluids you can come up with.

[lowcb7]

Thanks ill start trying anything. I have read transmission fluid but was sure on if that would work. I'm really hopeingthat that was just a cheap socket lol

[deevergote]

Why did you put WD40 in the cylinders?

[lowcb7]

I was told by an old mechanic. That just a little would loosen it up

The engine has NO oil andthe wd40 was just to ease it

[deevergote]

WD40 isn't really intended to be a lubricant. Probably not the best thing to put in there.

If the internals have corroded to the point of being seized, then they're most likely shot. If you get it moving again, it's highly likely that it will burn oil like crazy, and it may spin a bearing very quickly.

[lowcb7]

Well if the motor is seized is it a good idea to use parts from it and swap them to my f22a1 stuff like head and intake Mani? 2ould there be any gain or should I just save my pennies for something else?

Edit: just found a thread by. CbAccordA4 who swapped the head. Seems like that's what i may do

[deevergote]

That head is one of the few that's actually decent to swap to an F22A. It's really not that much better, other than the fact that it has two cams. You'll get a 5-10hp bump at most, and half of that will be due to the manifolds.

[oyajicool]

50/50 of ATF and acetone works good as penetrant, but in this case, I would use a 50/50 mixture of engine oil and Marvel Mystery oil.

Drain old oil.
Pour mixture into cylinders through plug holes.
Pour mixture onto valve train.
Leave it over night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it turns you are lucky. If it doesn't, you may apply some more of mixture and leave it for another night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it doesn't turn, it may be time to disassemble the engine and see what is stuck/not moving.
Repair as needed. Or use good parts for other application/engine.

[toycar]

50/50 of ATF and acetone works good as penetrant, but in this case, I would use a 50/50 mixture of engine oil and Marvel Mystery oil.

Drain old oil.
Pour mixture into cylinders through plug holes.
Pour mixture onto valve train.
Leave it over night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it turns you are lucky. If it doesn't, you may apply some more of mixture and leave it for another night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it doesn't turn, it may be time to disassemble the engine and see what is stuck/not moving.
Repair as needed. Or use good parts or other application/engine.

??????

Plug holes? Those are called freeze plugs. Those are for the coolant in-case it freezes so it wont crack the block. So it can expand when it freezes without cracking the block. The coolant jacket runs outside the cylinder, so adding anything into there would be pointless.

Theres no other "hole" going into the cylinder. You can pour on top of the pistons or the bottom through the crankcase. Theres no other access into the cylinder though.

[TracieS]

He means the spark plug hole I think.

[toycar]

He means the spark plug hole I think.

Lol, I think your right but didnt think about that until you said so. Im picturing the motor already seperated in half. .


Lololol

[lowcb7]

That head is one of the few that's actually decent to swap to an F22A. It's really not that much better, other than the fact that it has two cams. You'll get a 5-10hp bump at most, and half of that will be due to the manifolds.

So hwat gives the f22b more power. Should I change cams and pistons I want to get a decent budget build going. The most bang for my buck if you will
Edit :what's the difference betweeen f22ax blocks and the f22b

50/50 of ATF and acetone works good as penetrant, but in this case, I would use a 50/50 mixture of engine oil and Marvel Mystery oil.

Drain old oil.
Pour mixture into cylinders through plug holes.
Pour mixture onto valve train.
Leave it over night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it turns you are lucky. If it doesn't, you may apply some more of mixture and leave it for another night.
Try turn engine by hand. If it doesn't turn, it may be time to disassemble the engine and see what is stuck/not moving.
Repair as needed. Or use good parts or other application/engine.

Thanks ill try this asap

[deevergote]

the blocks are nearly identical, though the F22B has higher compression. It's only 20-26hp difference from the F22A6 (the F22B was reputed to make 160hp for the longest time... this 166hp rating is something new, and I'm not sure how valid it is.)

I'm sure some of the added compression is due to the head. However, I am assuming that the pistons are different as well.

To be honest, if you want to do a build, there's really no reason to even use the F22B head. The F22A head is perfectly capable, and all the parts you need for it are readily accessible in the US.

[lowcb7]

the blocks are nearly identical, though the F22B has higher compression. It's only 20-26hp difference from the F22A6 (the F22B was reputed to make 160hp for the longest time... this 166hp rating is something new, and I'm not sure how valid it is.)

I'm sure some of the added compression is due to the head. However, I am assuming that the pistons are different as well.

To be honest, if you want to do a build, there's really no reason to even use the F22B head. The F22A head is perfectly capable, and all the parts you need for it are readily accessible in the US.

Thanks for the info and as far as swapping.the heads I want to swap the f22b head over and fully rebuild the f22b block and maybe put a h22 head. I like Frankenstein notes lol. And I already picked up the motor so y not use it