stage 1 cams

[Zato]

stage 1 cams seems like a great idea for a mod but the price seems a little over kill , is the performance you get out of it worth the money or should i drop the money on something else maybe a $500-$1000 turbo kit to boost?

[Ely585]

stage 1 cams seems like a great idea for a mod but the price seems a little over kill , is the performance you get out of it worth the money or should i drop the money on something else maybe a $500-$1000 turbo kit to boost?

if your gonna boost make sure the motor can handle it. .

[wed3k]

i dont even know what motor we're talking about here.

[Ely585]

right . .

[deevergote]

1) We need to know what motor you are referring to.
2) We need to know what brand camshaft you are referring to. "Stage 1" is not a universal term. It merely indicates a manufacturer's most mild offering.
Also, not all camshafts are priced the same. Some are cheap, some are expensive.


The benefit to most "stage 1" camshafts is that you often do not need to upgrade your valve springs. That makes for a much cheaper and easier installation.
Additionally, the engine is a giant air pump... therefore, ANY modification that increases efficient airflow will increase performance. The amount of that performance increase is determined largely by how that part interacts with other parts. For example, a "stage 1" camshaft may add 5hp to an otherwise stock engine, with a stock ECU. It may add 15hp to an engine with an upgraded intake manifold, header, and exhaust. It may add 30hp to an engine with the upgraded intake, header, exhaust, internals, and a tuned ECU. (these numbers are off the top of my head, for reference only... they are not in any way an indication of what you should expect from a camshaft upgrade.)

In other words, you cannot view any upgrade as bolting on X amount of horsepower. It simply does not work that way. That stuff is only found in video games.

right . .

If you can't say anything worthwhile, please don't say anything at all.

[islandhopper]

Really? another one of these threads?

C'mon newbies...read the stickies!

This site has this subject covered. Thoroughly...

Edit: Here ya go!
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=159395

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=158815

[deevergote]

You do know that simply telling someone to search in this section will get you banned, right?

Since it's covered, and so easy to find... why don't you find it and provide a link?

[Zato]

if your gonna boost make sure the motor can handle it. .

i dont even know what motor we're talking about here.

1) We need to know what motor you are referring to.
2) We need to know what brand camshaft you are referring to. "Stage 1" is not a universal term. It merely indicates a manufacturer's most mild offering.
Also, not all camshafts are priced the same. Some are cheap, some are expensive.


The benefit to most "stage 1" camshafts is that you often do not need to upgrade your valve springs. That makes for a much cheaper and easier installation.
Additionally, the engine is a giant air pump... therefore, ANY modification that increases efficient airflow will increase performance. The amount of that performance increase is determined largely by how that part interacts with other parts. For example, a "stage 1" camshaft may add 5hp to an otherwise stock engine, with a stock ECU. It may add 15hp to an engine with an upgraded intake manifold, header, and exhaust. It may add 30hp to an engine with the upgraded intake, header, exhaust, internals, and a tuned ECU. (these numbers are off the top of my head, for reference only... they are not in any way an indication of what you should expect from a camshaft upgrade.)

In other words, you cannot view any upgrade as bolting on X amount of horsepower. It simply does not work that way. That stuff is only found in video games.




If you can't say anything worthwhile, please don't say anything at all.

Really? another one of these threads?

C'mon newbies...read the stickies!

This site has this subject covered. Thoroughly...

Edit: Here ya go!
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=159395

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=158815

You do know that simply telling someone to search in this section will get you banned, right?

Since it's covered, and so easy to find... why don't you find it and provide a link?

sorry about the trouble guys i manage to make the links work i had issue with my anti virus but i manage to get my answers so basically am going to just buy Brian Crower stage 2 cams,springs,valve set for h22A all together its only $1100 for all seems great price and great idea ill just get that and check my list for anything else i need down the road thank you for the links as well and i dint mean to piss ppl of am a noob and learning sorry if i get on your nerves .

[deevergote]

You didn't piss anyone off... you just asked a question and provided NO information.
Next time you ask a question, please tell us what engine you're talking about, what car it's going into, and what specific parts you are referring to.

Also, I would check out Bisimoto before settling on BC.

[Zato]

You didn't piss anyone off... you just asked a question and provided NO information.
Next time you ask a question, please tell us what engine you're talking about, what car it's going into, and what specific parts you are referring to.

Also, I would check out Bisimoto before settling on BC.

it was my fault for not saying the extra info , but at first i was just asking price wise , and yes i would look into it so far i only see skunk and BC dint know about bisimoto ill look into it tonight.

[wed3k]

BC makes some legit stuff. one thing good about stage one cams is that only the vtec lobe is altered. ive smogged a h22 with crower ones, untuned, stock ecu and it passes smog.

[deevergote]

Brian Crower and Crower are two separate companies (Brian had a falling out with the family and went his own way.)
I read that the Crower 1.5 (no longer made) is the one that had the stock low RPM lobes, and larger VTEC lobes. It makes for good emissions and idle... but there's a noticeable dip in power at the crossover. Those are the cams I once wanted in my own engine.

[wed3k]

Brian Crower and Crower are two separate companies (Brian had a falling out with the family and went his own way.)

i hope that wasnt directed towards me because that would be insulting my intelligence.

[Zato]

You didn't piss anyone off... you just asked a question and provided NO information.
Next time you ask a question, please tell us what engine you're talking about, what car it's going into, and what specific parts you are referring to.

Also, I would check out Bisimoto before settling on BC.

BC makes some legit stuff. one thing good about stage one cams is that only the vtec lobe is altered. ive smogged a h22 with crower ones, untuned, stock ecu and it passes smog.

Brian Crower and Crower are two separate companies (Brian had a falling out with the family and went his own way.)
I read that the Crower 1.5 (no longer made) is the one that had the stock low RPM lobes, and larger VTEC lobes. It makes for good emissions and idle... but there's a noticeable dip in power at the crossover. Those are the cams I once wanted in my own engine.

great information thank you that's something to keep in mind for sure.

[Accrdwgnguy]

Stage 2 is always a good route to go, more power for the same money.

Side note, I've been running a "Stage 2" Gude cam for 25k miles on stock F22A valvetrain. Just gotta adjust the valves more often.