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Deleting PS,A/C and CC whats the overall benefit?

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    Deleting PS,A/C and CC whats the overall benefit?

    I was going to delete my CC and PS but i want to keep my A/C. I live in TX and Its hot as shit here and this is my daily driver for the moment.So whats the overall benefit of removing all these luxury items from my CB and is it possible to keep the A/c and just remove the cc and ps?
    http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177927 <MY BUILD PROGReSS
    Originally posted by deevergote
    it won't be because cb7tuner told him to! It'll be because it's time to feed the trouser snake...

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    CC and PS, along with AC, are belt-driven systems. Deleting them reduces the load they put on the engine, thus freeing up more power. Im not sure which one puts the biggest load on the engine, though Id think AC would. And yes, you can remove CC and PS and still maintain AC.


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    Originally posted by Jarrett
    Is there a goal you're trying to accomplish besides looking dope as hell?

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      #3
      Originally posted by MikeW View Post
      CC and PS, along with AC, are belt-driven systems. Deleting them reduces the load they put on the engine, thus freeing up more power. Im not sure which one puts the biggest load on the engine, though Id think AC would. And yes, you can remove CC and PS and still maintain AC.
      I would think the ac would put less of a load since the ac pulley is not active until ac compressor is switched on otherwise doesnt it just spin freely with minimal resistance? and also would you happen to know what size belt it would use if i just kept the AC?
      http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177927 <MY BUILD PROGReSS
      Originally posted by deevergote
      it won't be because cb7tuner told him to! It'll be because it's time to feed the trouser snake...

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        #4
        Originally posted by MikeW View Post
        CC and PS, along with AC, are belt-driven systems. Deleting them reduces the load they put on the engine, thus freeing up more power. Im not sure which one puts the biggest load on the engine, though Id think AC would. And yes, you can remove CC and PS and still maintain AC.
        And thanks for the info .
        http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177927 <MY BUILD PROGReSS
        Originally posted by deevergote
        it won't be because cb7tuner told him to! It'll be because it's time to feed the trouser snake...

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          #5
          tiny bit of weight reduction :P

          but most of all the belt driven items that free up power on your engine

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            #6
            Originally posted by MikeW View Post
            CC and PS, along with AC, are belt-driven systems. Deleting them reduces the load they put on the engine, thus freeing up more power. Im not sure which one puts the biggest load on the engine, though Id think AC would. And yes, you can remove CC and PS and still maintain AC.
            CC is not belt driven

            AC is only belt driven when you turn it on

            PS is a little parasitic but not much at speed

            Now the weight savings are real, esp since these systems hang primarily ahead of the front axle

            But IMO deleting any of these systems on a daily driver is stupid as hell. How often do people need that extra HP more than they do A/C or P/S? This is one of those mods I really hate.

            OP I wouldn't do it.


            Originally posted by lordoja
            im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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              #7
              Originally posted by gloryaccordy View Post
              CC is not belt driven
              Are you sure....?

              AC is only belt driven when you turn it on
              But when it's on, it puts quite the load on the engine though.


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              Originally posted by Jarrett
              Is there a goal you're trying to accomplish besides looking dope as hell?

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                #8
                Originally posted by gloryaccordy View Post
                CC is not belt driven

                AC is only belt driven when you turn it on

                PS is a little parasitic but not much at speed

                Now the weight savings are real, esp since these systems hang primarily ahead of the front axle

                But IMO deleting any of these systems on a daily driver is stupid as hell. How often do people need that extra HP more than they do A/C or P/S? This is one of those mods I really hate.

                OP I wouldn't do it.
                Your right i think ill keep the PS and AC and lose the CC which is not belt driven but useless to me since most of my trips are street and I'll prob just gut the car and remove the back seats to shed some pounds.....
                http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177927 <MY BUILD PROGReSS
                Originally posted by deevergote
                it won't be because cb7tuner told him to! It'll be because it's time to feed the trouser snake...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by I-Deal214 View Post
                  Your right i think ill keep the PS and AC and lose the CC which is not belt driven but useless to me since most of my trips are street and I'll prob just gut the car and remove the back seats to shed some pounds.....
                  Even gutting a daily is a bad idea. The fumes and noises will give you a headache and opening the cabin to the trunk will make your P/S less effective.

                  Just save up your money, get the following:

                  H23 intake manifold
                  2.5" exhaust
                  F22A6 cam
                  OBX or Megan Racing header

                  And a half decent suspension (Koni STR.Ts + anything)... good to go

                  CBs don't have to be gutted to be fun, and anything you strip off of it won't be worth the functionality you lose.


                  Originally posted by lordoja
                  im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gloryaccordy View Post
                    Even gutting a daily is a bad idea. The fumes and noises will give you a headache and opening the cabin to the trunk will make your P/S less effective.

                    Just save up your money, get the following:

                    H23 intake manifold
                    2.5" exhaust
                    F22A6 cam
                    OBX or Megan Racing header

                    And a half decent suspension (Koni STR.Ts + anything)... good to go

                    CBs don't have to be gutted to be fun, and anything you strip off of it won't be worth the functionality you lose.
                    Welll im actually planning to take the rear seats out and keep the board that goes to the back support from the rear seats and fiberglass a speaker enclosure and amp mount so the trunk and cabin will still be seperate and im planning to do a wire tuck and a full duraflex insulation to the bottom and doors and engine firewall to seal the sound and heat from the cabin.and also its a coupe so im not too worried about the back seats.
                    But thanks on the insight.
                    http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177927 <MY BUILD PROGReSS
                    Originally posted by deevergote
                    it won't be because cb7tuner told him to! It'll be because it's time to feed the trouser snake...

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                      #11
                      If you are REALLY concerned about weight and such, sell this car and find a DX. No CC or A/C (unless A/C was added by the dealer). The DX also has no power windows or power locks...

                      Personally, I agree with gloryaccordy. The HP increase and weight savings are negligible and the loss of functionality is more of a detriment to a daily driver. Also, if you remove the power steering, you should replace the steering rack with a manual unit and replace the VSS with a manual unit, as it is lubricated by the power steering system.
                      Originally posted by Junior Smurff
                      Nevermind guys, google search works wonders!

                      I don't have road rage, my car just goes faster than yours!

                      Accords are for winners. And Grandmothers. But mostly winners.


                      I have grown so Tired of Internet Illiteracy. Please learn proper spelling and grammar. For your sake and that of your children.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 4GAccordH22 View Post
                        If you are REALLY concerned about weight and such, sell this car and find a DX. No CC or A/C (unless A/C was added by the dealer). The DX also has no power windows or power locks...

                        Personally, I agree with gloryaccordy. The HP increase and weight savings are negligible and the loss of functionality is more of a detriment to a daily driver. Also, if you remove the power steering, you should replace the steering rack with a manual unit and replace the VSS with a manual unit, as it is lubricated by the power steering system.
                        or you can also add or not empty the fluid and cover them with some bolts or something, i have no A/C, P/S, CC and the balance shaft belt, you can def. feel a big differance...hell i live in vegas and have no A/C!!

                        Plus A/C kills your engine faster....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by I-Deal214 View Post
                          Welll im actually planning to take the rear seats out and keep the board that goes to the back support from the rear seats and fiberglass a speaker enclosure and amp mount so the trunk and cabin will still be seperate and im planning to do a wire tuck and a full duraflex insulation to the bottom and doors and engine firewall to seal the sound and heat from the cabin.and also its a coupe so im not too worried about the back seats.
                          But thanks on the insight.
                          Ah ok

                          Well still, keep all that shit (AC/PS/CC). No amount of weight savings will help offset your system so it not worth the effort.


                          Originally posted by lordoja
                          im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pedroalcala View Post
                            or you can also add or not empty the fluid and cover them with some bolts or something, i have no A/C, P/S, CC and the balance shaft belt, you can def. feel a big differance...hell i live in vegas and have no A/C!!

                            Plus A/C kills your engine faster....
                            AC doesn't kill your engine. At least no faster than removing the balance shaft would.

                            Since you took all that stuff out, how often have you been to the track?


                            Originally posted by lordoja
                            im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by gloryaccordy View Post
                              AC doesn't kill your engine. At least no faster than removing the balance shaft would.

                              Since you took all that stuff out, how often have you been to the track?
                              twice, and i never heard that removing the balance shaft will kill your engine.....

                              all it does it controls the vibrations.....

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