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    Will my internals be able to handle a turbo if not what do i need to get to be able to install it?? advice please

    #2
    I have heard that f22s can handle 8psi properly tuned. *NOTE* I said "I heard"

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      #3
      Originally posted by Kool_kid892 View Post
      Will my internals be able to handle a turbo if not what do i need to get to be able to install it?? advice please
      Originally posted by ravenexi View Post
      I have heard that f22s can handle 8psi properly tuned. *NOTE* I said "I heard"
      Just to clarify, "8psi" means nothing without knowing the turbo specs or setup.


      The F22A can handle a turbo for "X" amount of time.
      "X" is the unknown factor, and relies factors like: Maintenance, tuning, current motor condition etc.

      Some members have done many years on stock motors, alot have only done a few months.
      Personally, I got 15,000kms out of a stock Brand new F22A before it broke 2 piston ringlands.
      I'm now on my 2nd new motor, and I expect "about" the same life out of this one.


      To be safe and reliable you should always upgrade the internals, namely the pistons.
      In which case while you have it all apart, it is a smart move to do everything else at the same time:
      Sleeves, rods, pistons, bearings etc


      Car Safety / General Servicing Checks --------Basic suspension checks

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      A "Finished" project car is never finished until its been sold.

      If at first you don't succeed, Try again. Don't give up too easily, persistance pays off in the end.

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        #4
        pardon for my ignorance on F series motors, but are f22 pistons designed with a very thin ringland.

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          #5
          word cause my hommie got me a turbo but before i put it on i need to know what i have to do to it

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            #6
            You have to do a hell of a lot of research before you even think of bolting that turbo to your car.

            First off, what turbo is it? Some turbos are too small, others are too large. Too small will damage your engine, and too large won't really do anything at all.

            You'll need a turbo manifold flanged for your turbo, a downpipe made to fit your exhaust, an intercooler, charge piping, waste gate, blow off valve, and larger fuel injectors. Then you'll need an ECU that can be tuned, and you'll have to either learn how to tune it yourself (which means getting all the necessary tools to do so), or have it tuned by a professional on a dyno (which is the better option.)

            Even then, the stock F22A bottom end will give out eventually. In time, you'll surely break a ringland, even if everything else is perfect. If it's not perfect, you may put a rod through the block.


            That's all you get. The information you need is found very easily in the Forced Induction part of this forum. I suggest going over to that section and reading everything you can. See what other people are using, and learn WHY.If you don't know WHY a part is necessary, and exactly WHAT it does, then you don't know enough to safely turbo your car.

            And no, we are not going to sit here and answer "is this turbo good?" "what ecu should I get?" "how do i tune an ecu?" etc... Read. If you have SPECIFIC questions based on the knowledge you have acquired by reading, then feel free to ask. We'll be glad to clear up anything that you don't understand. But we don't spoon-feed around here.






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              #7
              thanks man that helped alot i think i will jus keep my cold air intake on and just drop my cb-7 instead just got to find the right coil overs

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                #8
                Lowering your car involves more than just slapping on coilovers as well... doing it wrong, cutting corners, and buying cheap (or improperly matched) parts can be extremely dangerous.






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                  #9
                  We should stick to the topic and continue discussing how well you can bolt on a turbo and built it, tune it, and just enjoy your sucess. It seems on your last post in this thread you kind of gave up on the idea? Try looking more into it and accept the challenge don't just read all the details that Evil, and Deev say and automatically think its hard close to useless time spending project. I say don't just stay with you CAI and read on learn more I do see good knowledge in you I know your not stupid because you have the right puzzle pieces now, but you just got to put them together the right way.

                  Little advice try taking all the advice if its not misleading information take it in and remember it because it'll surprise you later when you'll need it. Also Deev and evil already started you off with the beginning of your long research.

                  My advice to you is this,
                  Building a turbo motor is a must, since you'll have to expect something tp either blow break or fail. Try setting out your HP goals and match them up with your budget and see if you have enough, this will avoid you buying cheap knock offs at the last minute.

                  Sorry its a little too long I just don't want to see people step away from building a F22A I love that engine and want to see more builds and not more H22 swaps.

                  P.s the homie slang sounds kool but don't abuse it a lot here, be yourself don't type the way you talk when your speaking to your friends in school....just a little advice you don't have to listen to me
                  Last edited by turboAccordHSF; 05-27-2011, 11:27 AM.


                  Originally posted by deevergote
                  .......If they seem smart, and just trying to learn, I'll offer as much help as possible. If they seem stupid and lazy, I'll do my best to piss them off so they leave and never come back... while still answering the question.

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                    #10
                    if you have to ask the basic question on "What do I need to do"
                    you are no-where near ready.

                    I researched for 1.5 yrs before I boosted, and of course like the rest of the world you learn as you go. But I still wasnt ready at that point.

                    You need to know the ins and outs of your car.
                    Having a basic idea of what needs to be done vs not having any idea
                    is what is going to kill your engine.

                    Undersatanding you need clutch and motor mounts to get that power down.
                    Traction issues, and the other issues, that arent mentioned with boosting are a killer.

                    There is always something, and something always comes up if you do not know how to properly maintain a boosted vehicle.
                    MadLab Racing
                    Southern Maryland


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                      #11
                      When boosting a Honda motor, the best course of action is to research every part, every procedure, every interaction between parts. Know exactly what you want before you buy a single part, or put a wrench to your car.
                      Then, expect to blow something up. Do everything you can to avoid it... but the chances are good that you'll break something on your first try.

                      My plan was to blow a stock motor in the process of learning my way around a turbo system... while building a motor to handle the boost on the side.






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