best headers for h22

[209cb7]

can anyone tell me wats the best header to use on the h22a
dc,try ys,etc
let me know

[mndude07]

The best bar none in terms of price? Bisimoto, RMF, SMSP, and Hytech are probably the top 4

[PUMASTi]

How many headers do you need, one header should be enough. Bisi has an amazing reputation for making great power out of NA engines.

[xkjnboix]

search! bisi 17.8 whp peak gain; 6.2 ft/lbs peak of torque

http://www.bisimoto.com/forum/viewto...8d01bd8f261786

[deevergote]

can anyone tell me wats the best header to use on the h22a
dc,try ys,etc
let me know

DC is crap. Generic design, makes little power, has a bottleneck collector... only good for CA residents, because of the CARB EO number.

Try Y? This isn't a brand. The "tri y" header design is another name for the 4-2-1 design.
If you're talking about the Raceboy header, or whatever it goes by now... that's just a cheap knockoff of the HyTech design. I do not support companies that steal expensive engineering designs and call them their own!

RMF - Another thief. They use a stolen Bisimoto prototype and call it their own. The owner of RMF used to be Bisimoto's fabricator. When they parted ways, that guy started using the unfinished product. Is it good? Sure. It's a Bisimoto design. Is it better than a real Bisimoto header? No... because it's an unfinished design!

Bisimoto - One of the best.

SMSP - Another one of the best (I'm still torn between SMSP and Bisimoto)

HyTech - Also one of the best

Mugen - 'Nuff said. DEFINITELY one of the best... but probably more expensive than all your mods combined.

ESP - simple, unimpressive looking design, but the dyno shows that it makes power. The guys at ESP produce very high quality parts as well. It won't perform as well as the ones above, but you can get it at half the price.


Kamikaze makes a little power, but it is very poorly made.

I've heard Vibrant makes power as well, but I believe they're very hard to find anymore. Supposedly there's one with a 2.5" collector, which is the one you would want.

[iwork4mycb7]

hows bisis header gasket? has anyone had any coplains on air leak from header to downpipe gasket?

[jdmwannabee]

what mods do you have or plan on doing?
those are race headers named above. i could name a few exceptional ones.
you're in cali so you'll need a carb sticker. race headers do not come with those.

if you're building your motor then spring for the race header after learning the details of your motor set up.
the wrong header and motor set up will make you lose power.

[Losiracer2]

Another good header is a hotshot header I had a lot of issues with it leaking but it was a nice free flowing design and had a 3 inch collector for those fully built engines

[struckaccordCB7]

hows bisis header gasket? has anyone had any coplains on air leak from header to downpipe gasket?

bisi gaskets are pretty good.
i haven't had any leaks so far from december 2K10

[civic_90_08]

It really doesn't matter what you get, everyone is going to hail all to bisi.

I'm not bashing the guy, but i just dont have $600 to spend on a header. I took the cheaper route and bought the Kiddracing tri-y. Yeah...its a "stolen" design, but it still makes power.

Maybe one day ill be able to just have a sidewinder coming out of the front bumper..

[deevergote]

$600 was for the group buy... for the F22A. The H22 group buy was more, and it is now over. Try $1200.


Supporting stolen designs will only drive the actual designers out of business, or at least out of our market. Once the knockoff makers finish strip-mining our market, they will stop making them too. Then we will have nothing but the cheap $50 shit you can find on ebay left!

If you want to make power, support the people that are putting the time, effort, and money into making the best possible products... not the assholes that buy one and then copy it with poor craftsmanship and low-grade materials.



As for Bisi's gasket... I'm sure his $1200 header doesn't come with a bargain-bin gasket!

[iwork4mycb7]

It really doesn't matter what you get, everyone is going to hail all to bisi.

I'm not bashing the guy, but i just dont have $600 to spend on a header. I took the cheaper route and bought the Kiddracing tri-y. Yeah...its a "stolen" design, but it still makes power.

Maybe one day ill be able to just have a sidewinder coming out of the front bumper..

i agree with this guy, if i was to get the tri-y header half price as the bisi and making the same power i would get it. i know its fcked up for bisi but if i could save myself some cash then ill be doing it, im also pretty sure that bisi is getting way more profit of the header from you.

$600 was for the group buy... for the F22A. The H22 group buy was more, and it is now over. Try $1200.


Supporting stolen designs will only drive the actual designers out of business, or at least out of our market. Once the knockoff makers finish strip-mining our market, they will stop making them too. Then we will have nothing but the cheap $50 shit you can find on ebay left!

If you want to make power, support the people that are putting the time, effort, and money into making the best possible products... not the assholes that buy one and then copy it with poor craftsmanship and low-grade materials.



As for Bisi's gasket... I'm sure his $1200 header doesn't come with a bargain-bin gasket!

i hope it wouldnt come with a cheap ass gasket thats somthing it would bother a lot of people that would buy the product...

[deevergote]

You'd be hurting the scene far more than you'd be hurting the manufacturer when you buy a knockoff part. The manufacturer will abandon the platform as soon as cheapskates start buying the knockoff garbage. They'll be fine... it's us that will be shit out of luck!

Also, I'd rather pay $1200 for a header that's well made, than $600 for a header that's slapped together with crap steel. Build quality and workmanship means a hell of a lot!





It's the same concept as downloading music and then complaining when your favorite artist stops recording.

[iwork4mycb7]

You'd be hurting the scene far more than you'd be hurting the manufacturer when you buy a knockoff part. The manufacturer will abandon the platform as soon as cheapskates start buying the knockoff garbage. They'll be fine... it's us that will be shit out of luck!

Also, I'd rather pay $1200 for a header that's well made, than $600 for a header that's slapped together with crap steel. Build quality and workmanship means a hell of a lot!





It's the same concept as downloading music and then complaining when your favorite artist stops recording.

first part its true were the ones that would be loosing here..

yes but unfortunally not all people think like that, everyone wants to save money and go with the cheap stuff but again theres people that support the original stuff,

well if the artist stops recording means that he isnt that good to make people say ok im going to support him by buying his cd, but again people like the artist but still downloading his music..

[93blackcb7]

i saw one online with custom headers it look bigger in diameter but probably wasnt street legal